Everybody that is currently building a car...

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Originally Posted by falconvan

Dave,
My oldest son was the same way with his 69 Chevy truck. I couldn't get him to do squat on it until it was almost done and he could start to visualize the finished product. My youngest son has been much better about helping on his car.

I've got a paint question; We're going to paint my son's 94 Firebird and I'm wondering how to address the plastic nosepiece. There's a lot of cracking in the paint on this part. How do I prep this to paint it so that doesn't come back? Is there any special way to sand these plastic pieces so as not to mess them up? Anything you have to add to the primer and paint for flexing?

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I'm going to try something a little different.....going to finish the front clip.....polished and all new chrome (grill and bumper in bad shape). Then let his sit back and realize what it could look like.....:LOL::LOL: Is that mean? :LOL::LOL:

falconvan..... I've done quite a few urethan bumpers over the years. Here's what I do. I sand all of the old paint off using a 180 da (or coarser). I personally would stay away from the spray on paint remover stuff. Make a real mess. Sand all the way down to the urethan because you want to get those cracks out. When the entire nose is done....I usually use a good 2k primer with flex additive and block the entire thing down till its perfect. Seems like I used the flex in the clear too but I honestly cant remember. I usually ask John down at Modern parts. He's never steered my wrong. I wish I had used more flex additive on my RX8. I curbed it several months ago and man you should see the spider webs (cracks). :whacked:

Dave G

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Originally Posted by Stovebolter

I'm going to try something a little different.....going to finish the front clip.....polished and all new chrome (grill and bumper in bad shape). Then let his sit back and realize what it could look like.....:LOL::LOL: Is that mean? :LOL::LOL:

Dave G

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I don't think it's mean....I think it's just another lesson in reality!!!!!:eek::eek: Hot Rods don't finish themselves or remain shiny forever!!!!!:LOL::LOL:

My middle son was ready as soon as he could hold a wrench today he is 28 and I do guide him in new territory . My oldest son at 32 will not touch a wrench he goes to the dealer or begs me LOL :CRY:

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

I don't think it's mean....I think it's just another lesson in reality!!!!!:eek::eek: Hot Rods don't finish themselves or remain shiny forever!!!!!:LOL::LOL:

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Thanks Dave. It puzzles me.....a boy his entire life has drilled me with questions to the point that his mother and I swore he had oil in his veins. But now when it comes right down to the nitty gritty.....he lacks ambition. I'll admitt....this week he has put a lot of time in the car.....but I've had to stay after him constantly. I imagine he has my A.D.D. He'll go from stripping paint for 5 minutes to swatting flys for 10 minutes....then stares off into space for another 5 before he gets a glare from me and a warning that I'm about to push his car outside out of my way and then he can battle the rust himself. :LOL:

Today we cleaned up shop....man that sand and filler dust gets everywhere. What a mess.

Since last.....cut the rot out of the drivers side floor pan.....realizing that I had no seam sealer and ran out of weldable primer. He stripped the entire radiator/headlight/fender support....and he sprayed it with DP90. I told him that DP90 would suffice just fine for his car.....sprayed the bright radiator too.....cause it just didnt look right behind the grill in its natural color. Dustin got the other fender stripped and both inner fenders and cowl. Now if I could just get that hood right. Then we could proceed to block and wet sand. Its starting to get hot and humid. I told him we really need to get this done.

Know what ya mean on the kid.... My son was all revved up on cars till he was about 12 and discovered computers, don't think he's been in the shop voluntarily since then. month or so ago, had to go put a battery in his car for him--said he didn't know how...

Sounds like some good progress on yours... I went out in the garage the other night and tacked the frame ties into the 'maro, but that's about all I've done to it lately...so busy out at the shop again. Think I see some spare time coming in a couple weeks, hopefully. Got the right side quarter cleco'd into place on the '67 (rust monster) Camaro at the shop, it's a "real" SS 4 speed car, so it will require a lot of extra time and attention to detail!!!! Got the engine out of the '36 Plymouth and doing the final fit on the front sheet metal, then time to break it down for paint... Bill did some swappin' today, swapped the old '66 T-Bird for a '37 Plymouth pickup...haven't seen it yet, guess it's coming home next weekend... No pics from the shop, forgot to take the camera along today.....

Dave....you'll be driving that Camaro before you know it. You should drop a blue oval in it just to puzzle us Chevy guys. :LOL::LOL: Had a co-worker come in last week telling me that he just saw a 65-68 Mustang Fastback for sale for $1200. Absolutely overloaded with excitement (my wife wants one), I jumped in the van and headed to the place that said co-worker stated it sat. Keep in mind please....this guy is an old friend that I met at a car show. We both showed our 71 Chevelle SS's the same day and became close friends ever since. I honestly figured him to be a car guy and know what he was talking about. When I got there however.......it was an AMC Javalin. :LOL::LOL: I definitely called him and teased him. He said they look similar....I said no way. :LOL::LOL: Cool car....just not what I was hoping for. Obviously it goes without saying....if its too good to be true it probably is. I knew a fast back would be priced much higher but you never know around here. Lots of times folks around here dont know what some of these cars are worth.

It's funny I thought it was going to be a newer Mustang. After looking at a Javelin though, it does bear some resemblance to a 72 fastback
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What shape was the Javelin in? Might be worth a bit!

Heck, I like them both!!! of course the Horse would be my first choice, but I'd like to find a nice Javelin or especially an AMX to play with some day!

Dave the next Fastback I nab you will have first dibs on it . Of course some fender massage may be in the configuration .

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No problem, Bobby!!! I do lots of fenders and quarter panels!!!!

Finally got a shot of the frame ties tacked into place on the 'maro, still lots of work and welding to finish the installation. The other pic, well, if a little engine set back is good, then more is better, right????:LOL::LOL::LOL:

Evolvo.... I actually do like the car but it was for my wife.....she wants a 65-67ish fastback....or an original Beetle convertible. LOL's. I'm leaning toward the Beetle. Although they have a hefty price tag too now days.

Stovens.....the AMC actually is in very restorable shape. Badged as a 360 auto. Also think it had the SST emblem. If someone is interested I'll dig deeper for them. $1200 on the window.

Dave.....Right now I'm wishing you'd send some of that cooler weather my way. LOL's.

Bluestang......Those will make some nice ponies! You must have been collecting them for a while.

That looks great, Dave. That thing should handle like a slot car between the reinforcements and weight distribution. Is that about the same setback as a late model F-body?
Bobby, looks like you've got a goldmine worth of Stang stuff sitting there!

[QUOTE=falconvan;355658]That looks great, Dave. That thing should handle like a slot car between the reinforcements and weight distribution. Is that about the same setback as a late model F-body?
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About 4" more.....Might have to go forward some so I can get the shifter where I want it.... Now if I could just find some time to work on it a bit....

No kidding; if I've got time, I've got no money. If I've got money, I can't find the time. Wish I could get them both together for a change. It's looking good, you'll be done before you know it.

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Originally Posted by falconvan

No kidding; if I've got time, I've got no money. If I've got money, I can't find the time. Wish I could get them both together for a change. It's looking good, you'll be done before you know it.

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When you figure out how to balance the time vs money deal, PLEASE let me in on the secret!!!!!!

Mocking things up on the 'maro for now, when I get the cage and other components installed, gonna set in up on the scales and put the engine where it does the best on weight distribution.... Looks like Mike Forte can get me a shifter positioned just about anywhere I need it....!!!!!!!

Then paint it, wire it, fire it up, install the FOR SALE signs!!!!!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:

Don't have any Fastbacks right now those are the ones I have had and sold in the last 5 years . Something better comes along or different sell and buy . Though selling the 390 :( to get the 37 , well still have set backs over that one this last 9 months .

What is the difference between a mercury 2 door coupe and a leadsled

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Originally Posted by chad3653

What is the difference between a mercury 2 door coupe and a leadsled

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"leadsled" is slang for a significantly customized car, has nothing to do with brand or model year.

Like the avatar pic Bob , I like the new blue on the 09 Ford truck here lately . Sure am trying hard not to stop at the dealer :CRY: just don't like the new style .

But picking a color will be all American made choice here .

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Originally Posted by bluestang67

Don't have any Fastbacks right now those are the ones I have had and sold in the last 5 years . Something better comes along or different sell and buy . Though selling the 390 :( to get the 37 , well still have set backs over that one this last 9 months .

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Same here; my son about had a stroke when I sold my 70 Monte Carlo SS to build a fat fendered rod, but that's the only way I can afford to move to the next project. How's the 37 coming along?

I would get both the Jav and a Fastback. Here's my 70 AMX and 68 Fastback.
I've had the AMX since 1975.

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hey evolvo nice tin work did you roll them beads or use a pullmax

Tin work looks great Evolvo!!!! very nice work!

tin looks good to me i know it is not EZ .i pick up a long neck bead roller many years ago it s a two man job .i leaned it a fast way to turn good metal to scrap . it spends alot of its time under my welding table. it also great to pinch your finger meat in the drive gears .then pee runs down your leg and then i cry like a little girl .. anways . .your wagon should go like hell

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Originally Posted by falconvan

Same here; my son about had a stroke when I sold my 70 Monte Carlo SS to build a fat fendered rod, but that's the only way I can afford to move to the next project. How's the 37 coming along?

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Falcon nothing moving on the 37 yet just doing some gathering , Main goal is the mustang and 31 . The 31 is going on the block running and typical black , picked up a AOD and 8 inch to swap out the 9 and T-5 to the 37 .

I agree the fellas Evolvo. Great looking work!

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Originally Posted by Stovebolter

I agree the fellas Evolvo. Great looking work!

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Same here; I'd love to see some build pics of how you set the drivetrain up.

The new "shop truck" came home yesterday... Needs a bit of work, huh???? Good, solid old truck! It's a '37 Plymouth that is complete, minus the box... Anyway, has a bunch of original parts if anyone knows of a restoration dude who might want them!!!!

And one of the '36, almost time to break it down and start the body work....

That'll be a cool truck Dave!

progress... The grille shell will not stay their I also have the motor mounts fabricated ill get pics with the motor in sometime soon

Dave see the Maro in the back with new 1/4s . Old Mopar looks good shouldn't take you to long to get it ready . The 36 looks like you have most the body work complete .

Spent the day getting right Stang fender done , found a couple small dents . Well its primed and needing sanded and re prime .

Tried the new HVLP with a 2.3 tip , I will say it is taking me a bit to set it up first spits then dry . I think it will need more then the 20 lbs I had on it . But it is a learning process since I am so used to conventional guns /

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Originally Posted by Evolvo

Been doing some work on the car lately. I never cared for the big gap between the radiator and engine, so I did something about it. Moved the radiator back 2" and tipped the top back a further 2". First pic is where it started, second is new location and the rest are of the "shroud" I came up with. Still need to come up with a cover for the rad cap hole.

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Nice work Evolvo!
Just got back from the north coast backpacking trip with my brother. Good to see the stuff your working on!:D

Well had a great deal come thru . The previous owner used a liquid wrench to cut the firewall out . To say the least he was shaky and didn't use a straight edge . This replacement came by cheap and very usable . Local Illinois guy with a 31 roadster replaced this with a stock one . Makes me a very easy fix to a bigger problem .

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Don't you just love easy solutions! Nice find.:cool:

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Originally Posted by bluestang67

Well had a great deal come thru . The previous owner used a liquid wrench to cut the firewall out . To say the least he was shaky and didn't use a straight edge . This replacement came by cheap and very usable . Local Illinois guy with a 31 roadster replaced this with a stock one . Makes me a very easy fix to a bigger problem .

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Bobby - it looks like a Brookville. Until you get everything in place, I suggest that you don't weld it in place. I had to make a lot of mods to mine and since Brookville did a "final" assembly, my mods to fit the engine/transmission were very difficult - everything just kinda hangs out in the breeze and nothing to measure against except trial and error. Great find though as it is a repro of the OEM though it does make other items hard to fit up besides what I said above.

Stove it sure does .

Dave I am going to dissect it and only installing the center . I will leave my original all attached around its out side . I wont use more then is needed once I cut the original straight.

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Originally Posted by bluestang67

Stove it sure does .

Dave I am going to dissect it and only installing the center . I will leave my original all attached around its out side . I wont use more then is needed once I cut the original straight.

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Bobby - the new one isn't difficult to install. Get the tank off along with the wrap around chrome strip, sand the paint in the wider of the grooves in the cowl uprights so you can see where it's welded, then drill out those spot welds on the sides as well as the rivets at the bottom and out come the old. IMO, a lot easier then trying to cut and snip, paste and tape the old one that already has too many holes that need plugging. I did that with the sedan that I had then sold the OEM fire wall for a few bucks though yours looks like almost scrap iron:CRY:. By doing it that way and with fitting the trans tunnel and trimming the firewall with it as a removable piece really make the job easier - especially if you can get it on a bench. The original 'A' didn't have much of a trans tunnel and for me to fit my 5.0 with a C4 (or for that matter any tranny, you have to do a fair amount of trimming on the bottom recessed piece - even if you use wood floorboards which I didn't.

This is a photo (ugly at this point) of what a 5.0 and a C4 look like with mods to the firewall. Then another showing the other side (no so ugly) when I assembled the body to the frame. Cramped:eek: Neither, unfortunately, show the trans tunnel in place - but it was a challange.

Dave when this was removed it was not to save so Free was the price . My original is in fantastic shape with the original tag that I like where it is .There where no holes drilled in it yet so only the original equipment is there . Sectioning this in is a piece of cake leaving the original spots on the exterior of the firewall . Once the firewall is cut and cleaned and i fit the new section in you will never know it was done .

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I was so excited to get to spread some mud.....now I'm getting tired of it. :LOL::LOL: Still working on Dustin's cowl hood. I think that I'm just about ready for some 2K and find myself spreading another thin layer of poly fill. Oh bugger!

And I'm really eyeballing the 36 again. I want so bad to work on it.

Dave G