thanks charlie but i hate idiot lights.
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thanks charlie but i hate idiot lights.
Barb, if you use copper line, make sure you have it secured all along its length so that it cannot vibrate up and down or sideways from bumps and dips in the road or the motor torquing over as you drive. If allowed to flex, the copper will work harden, then crack and fail. You could find yourself with a lap full of 60psi oil at 200+ degrees F. This is nothing you have to be paranoid about, just secure the line and forget it.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU INSTALL A MECHANCIAL FUEL PRESSURE GAUGE IN THE DRIVER'S COMPARTMENT. :eek: If you need a mechanical fuel pressure gauge, mount it on the cowl and read it through the windshield.
I like mechanical gauges for their accuracy but hate them for bringing fluids into the car, as the guys mentioned. I think it was my 63 Pontiac that had a mechanical oil pressure gauge and the plastic line broke and I got a bath of oil all over the floor. :eek: I have a set of mechanical gauges to use in my rpu project but am going to go with the copper lines and fasten them as Richard has suggested.
Don
thanks don and tech. never heard of that. wondered why the gauges i see are mounted on the hood. i will certainly do that. thanks again.
Barb, try to not make sharp bends in the copper line as it can crimp and restrict flow. Use a tube cutter, if you have one, to cut the copper or a very fine saw blade. I like to use Xacto saws that are designed for balsa wood and plastic as they make very smooth cuts and the sharp edges are easy to file off. You could use an emory board on tubing that small. Be sure to blow out the tube to eliminate any filings and don't over tighten the barrel nuts when you assemble the tube into the fittings.
thanks ntf. i have a tube cutter. will make sure that it is not crimped and smooth inside and out. thanks again.
Take your time and make loops about 4" in diameter for excess tubing and as tech suggested secure the tubing. I'd suggest that you find a rubber grommeted hole in the firewall to feed the tubing through.
thanks ntf.
ok guys. got the new fuel pump and filter. engine is getting gas, it is wired right. turning over beautifully but not firing. replaced all the plugs, set proper gap. checked wires and everything is clicked into place. what do i do next?
Barb,
Have you pulled a plug wire, like #1, and plugged a spare plug into that wire, grounded the plug and cranked it to verify spark at the plugs? I would probably try a shot of ether into the carb throat to see if it lights off with that.
thanks roger i will try that in the morning. bugs out there will carry you away in the afternoons.
he said that he got it started by putting gas in the carb but could not keep it running to set the timing because of the bad fuel pump. but that he got my wiring figured out. so now i am trying to get it running and i do not know what i am doing. i will do what you said to do first thing tomorrow afternoon. thanks
Seems to me that if the fellow at the shop had the motor running, that there would still be spark at the plugs unless someone changed something since the shop guy had it running. The only variable I can see is that the motor has not operated the fuel pump lever to pump enough fuel to fill the fuel bowl on the carb. Make sure the battery is fully charged and maybe even hook up a charger to it while you try to start the motor. Key the starter and pump the accelerator. Let her grind for 15-20 seconds. Then let the starter cool for a while before you try again. Depending on the suckability of the pump, it could take a little while to get the fuel up there and fill the bowl so that the motor will start. If I were doing it, I would take the line loose at the carb and use a suction bulb to fill the bowl before trying to turn the motor again. The kind of suction bulb I mean is the type that a mom would use to suck mucus from a baby's nose or use to irrigate an ear. But you probably don't have one of them anymore and I don't want you smelling like gas for several days either. Just before you turn the key to try starting it, give the side of the carburetor a pretty good whack with the wooden handle of a hammer. If the float is stuck, that will usually dislodge it.
the fuel line is full as after it would not start i lossened the line after the filter. got a shot of gas in my eyes. thought that someone had put matches in them. when hubby heard me screaming he came out and jammed my face under the water hose. took about a 1/2 hour for the burning sensation to stop. thank goodness that it did not leave any burns. by last night my eyes were all better. will whack the carb today too. thanks tech.
Barb, if it doesn't start, talk to the mechanic you sent it to in the first place. I thought he had fixed this problem? Or at least diagnosed it.
Hey Barb,
I had forgotten that the guy that got it mounted also lit it off with some gas down the carb. Tech's got the right approach - no reason for the spark to be gone if all you did was haul it home. You've proven fuel pressure to the carb, so you might want to look into the venturi and open the throttle once to see if you get a good strong double shot of gas from the accelerator pump. If not then you have to assume that your needle & seat is not opening - again Tech's sharp rap with a hammer handle may be the fix.
Regarding burning your hair off with a shot of starting fluid (ether):rolleyes:, no one with half a brain is going to spray ether while cranking, much less while cranking and leaning over the carb:whacked:. Anyone who does probably deserves the singed eyebrows :LOL:
hay barb I got thinking and went back to when you started this thread its more than 9 mo. maybe the phony obama gas has gone bad you might want to check.....ted
thought about that too ted. the mechanic filled it up with fresh gas. have not gotten to it today as it is 105 with the heat index here. and on a all black car it is just too hot to do anything until the sun starts to set.
Don't be gettin' all girly on us now Barb, put on a wide brim straw hat and get with the program.....:LOL:
think i know what the problem is. how do you wire a electric choke? my mechanic has it wired to where the ignition to the distributor is also wired. is that right? if not how do i wire it?
If its like the ones I've installed thats right. Is the choke open when your cranking... If its that hot there I wouldn't think it would be closed. Maybe for a second but not long.
i do not know charlie. i think that it is as i can smell gas. but i am doing this alone and really can not see what the carb is doing when i turn it over. i do know that when i crank it a little white smoke is coming out of the header if that is a sign of something. lord i am so lost trying to do this. it is so frustrating.
To check the electric choke you can run just turn on the ignition switch and see if it opens. it works on temp. not rpm. and like I said I don't think it would be closed with this heat. If it is you should be able to open it and put a screwdriver in to hold it open.... You may have it flooded....If that is the case Hold the throttle all the way open and put a screwdriver in the carb all the way down and let it sit for awhile to dry up the extra gas. Its frustrating here too trying to figure out the problem when I'm sure its somthing simple
thank you so much charlie. will try that tomorrow.
Barb, maybe I missed something, but wasn't that mechanic supposed to get it running and usable for you? What did he do, hand it back half finished for you to wrap up?
I agree with Steve, I would get him involved again.
Don
don i think now that is what he did. wish i could give it back to him but can not afford it.
disconnect the choke wire----
okay i will right now
took the choke wire loose. took a screwdriver and whacked the side of the carb. just had enough juice in my battery to turn her over one time. she fired up. woo hoo. scared me so much that i instantly turned her off. now have to wait for hubby to come home this afternoon to jump my battery to try again. BUT SHE DID FIRE. i am so, so gratfull to you all for the help. will make a video of it running this afternoon. WOO HOO.
Good news Barb, the rest is all down hill now.
thank you again.
Connect the choke wire to the hot line at the windshield wiper motor. The dizzy should not be sharing juice with anything else.
Except maybe a tachQuote:
Originally Posted by techinspector1
Barb great to hear she fired up! Ashame you have to wait for a jump start. Harbor Freight has been selling battery chargers with a jumpstart booster mode for really cheap, that works great for times like this. Hang in there!
I am with everyone else GREAT to here it fired Good job
By the way when do you think you'll be starting your next project LOL:D
thanks tech i will do that. thanks again everyone for the help. charlie you made me say a bad word.
SORRY :eek: But you know once this is in your blood you can't quit:3dSMILE::3dSMILE::3dSMILE: I'm probably twice your age and can't quit
don't worry charlie. i say bad words often. my next adventure is to learn how to do fiberglass. then redo my interior. i would like to go with a star trek theme like. with the dash wrapping around me somewhat. do not think that i will ever be done with this car.:D
got a jump and she fired up again but is lopping badly. so after the sun starts to set i am going to try to do the timing. what ever possesed me to make a black car inside and out and then work on it in the hot sun is beyond me.