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Awesome finish!

Originally Posted by stovens

Awesome finish!

What he said x 2

Times 3! Awesome work.

Thanks guys! Scott is supposed to call next week when he gets the Harley back together so we can get a picture of it.

Well, we had gotten some more sanding done......











.....and since it was still early in the evening, mixed up some more epoxy....

Doesn't seem like much to show, we're still sanding away....




















Got about half done with the tail gate and remembered we needed some holes drilled in the new skin for the emblem. Only issue was that I had done some spring cleaning earlier this year and the original skin with the hole pattern and location was now gone. So I sent an email to Mikey at The Stainless Shoppe, as he had an original, and he got me squared away... Thanks Mikey!








I located the hole for the center alignment pin first, and planned on using some spotters for the remaining 4 holes... Some measurements were taken to insure the emblem was on straight, and then some "backstops" used. The spotters come in a set of various sizes, and typically you never find the exact size you need...








These will go in some 10-24 threaded holes on the emblem. The closest size was the 1/8" spotters, so we'll need to adjust the fit..





A couple wraps of fineline tape and we now have a snug fit so the spotters don't fall out..











Then the emblem is located on the tail gate with the center alignment pin, then the back stops. The emblem is pressed onto the tail gate, and the spotters leave their mark on the epoxy paint finish..





Next, the studs are installed finger tight using sleeve retainer. This will hopefully keep them from spinning inward any further risking possible damage to the chrome bezel...








The nuts that come with the emblem are the split thread variety, and I had some threaded ones left over from the Fairlane build, that also are slightly larger in diameter, which may help out as the emblem also serves as a lift handle..





Holes drilled and emblem fitted

Great work as usual!

Interesting for me was your "spotters" I have 2 sets and they are called transfer punches. 1 set is just like yours more or less.. the other is more like a pin punch that passes through the threads and you hit the punch to "transfer" the bolts center location.

As always, THANKS for the pics.. and say Hi to Kyle for us!!

I have the transfer punches as well. The primary difference is the transfers are used on through holes as you described, the spotters are used in a closed hole where you can't use a punch.. On a budget, get a screw the correct thread, cut the head off, chuck up in a drill and use an angle sander to make the point, then screw into place. The spotters have a better point than I can do on the lathe, though..

C'mon.. any one who works metal like you do.. can't do a point in a lathe?!?!?!

I'll never believe it!

I'm going to blame it on needing new cutters...

Thanks for posting that! I need to get me some spotters! Great work too.

Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe

Thanks for posting that! I need to get me some spotters! Great work too.

Check it out. I use the second set down from the top

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I was blocking out the tailgate the other day and had a "halo" effect appear in the epoxy, shown below just to the right of the latch hole. This has a light skim of Evercoat 416 beneath the epoxy in that area. It was nice and flat while in bare metal, after spraying epoxy, after blocking the Evercoat/ before spraying the last coat of epoxy. I was baffled at what would cause such a nicely formed circle in the paint...






Even scratched the area to see if there was any softness to the Evercoat, but no..


Here's the panel in bare steel before paint and after first coat of epoxy...





No dings, or defects otherwise seen. I had posted a query on the SPI forum to see if anyone had ever run into this. I don't know why I didn't think of this first, but it was suggested to: 1) look inside 2) only time this type of defect had been seen was dropping screwdriver inside door and left similar mark on outside of door bottom after sanding.

So in full investigative mode, I first measured the distance of the defect from the turn latch hole..

The Halo is approx. 3" away from the handle hole..



Measuring that distance on the inside shows.....oh wait....what's that bare metal?





As soon as I saw this I realized there had only been one thing inside that could have caused it... the painting fixture we made..



This was made to hold the tail gate in correct alignment as on the car for painting. I had radiused the lower bar but failed to do so on the top one. A check of the skin with body sweeps shows that a #15 sweep is about correct, so it was used to verify some relief grinding on the top bar...







As added insurance, some truck cap gasket seal was added to further isolate the issue on both top and bottom bar....





On a positive note, glad to find this issue in the primer stage......
But let's back up a second and look at this picture, it should have been my red flag. Where the second mark to the left in the picture was not as round, looking at it now does show a rather symmetrical device was causing this..



So please use my lesson in dumassery to prevent a similar occurrence.


And on another note, Scott came by the other evening after getting the motorcycle back together... The owner had decided to leave off the decals, so it's all black with metallic...

I had to read the halo effect three times, but I think I have it figured out.

You are saying that the fixture put a dent in the skin, which showed up as a high point. Which caused the halo upon sanding.

Yes, the pointed corner at the top made a ding from the inside. Was kinda freaky to see that halo show up so perfectly formed as you are sanding... like where the heck did that come from?