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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    To even consider fuel consumption while thinking of superchargers and dual turbos is a bit of a oxymoron isn't it?.....
    I had the same thought when I read it the post last night. Depending on how you set up the carb linkage your dual fours should run on two venturi's at idle and up to perhaps 25-30% throttle for cruise mode, so fuel consumption will be determined by skinny pedal position, right? And it'll spend more time greater than 50% than it does below 50%, right?
    I'd say that when anyone looks at either setup the question, "What's your best overall mileage?" is not going to be in their top ten if they know anything about hot rods..... If someone does ask just smile and say, "Seriously??", and then laugh. If you're concerned with economy buy a Prius, or go with the twin turbo's with a fixed throttle stop at 40%. Your MPG will still suck, though...
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    Big ole Hemi with a big old Blower in a big old 40 = Pure Class
    Big ole Hemi with twin turbos in a big old 40 = interesting but not near as much class

    Gas milage of 2 4bls depends on setup and how you drive it. It does not have to be bad. If you size the carbs right and get them spot on, it won't be that far off from normal driving with one carb. If there are plans for a set of rubber tracks coming out of your driveway that get thicker by the week, quit being prissy about the milage. Take the "Seriously" route.
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    Ok I should be more clear, with the 2 turbos I'll only be using one 750 or one 650 double pumper carb. Not 2. On the blower I'd like to have 2 450's. I'm kind of leaning towards turbos just because everyone expects a blower to be on top of a Hemi. I'm going to strive for some performance and mileage because I want to drive it daily and it has to do decent or I can't. I'm a poor boy. If I can't have some power and mileage then why mess with the gas crap. I've got other fuel alternative power sources I could go to. Haha (Cummins or a 7.3 Powerstroke)

    In more thought here...... The turbos I have I'd use if I go turbo route will be 2 HX35W's. They are only 57mm compressors, so they aren't huge. My biggest issue with turbos is going to be packaging. There isn't much room in the engine bay with the Hemi there. I may not make up my mind until I actually get the car back in the shop and try fitting things on it. Too many choices.
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    Your car not mine, build to please yourself.
    And if that Hemi was in my 40, it would have a blower peeking through the hood.
    Check the 37 from head on.
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    That is one nice car!!!!

    One of my older friends is telling me that I should be able to achieve 15+ mpg's with a blower set up right since I have a lock up overdrive trans. He is ready to smack me for not putting a blower on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    That is one nice car!!!!

    One of my older friends is telling me that I should be able to achieve 15+ mpg's with a blower set up right since I have a lock up overdrive trans. He is ready to smack me for not putting a blower on it.
    Sounds like a smart guy! With age comes wisdom, sometimes..... Ask him if he needs any help with the smacking. Scooting will pick me up on the way to Iowa....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post
    Sounds like a smart guy! With age comes wisdom, sometimes..... Ask him if he needs any help with the smacking. Scooting will pick me up on the way to Iowa....
    Come on up, becareful though, I might have to put you guys to work afterwards.
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    I was checking out pics of 40 Fords and ran across this. It isn't exactly how I'd build one, but it is pretty cool. I dig the stance, but I'm not sold on the big wheel no tire situation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_NZ1Dtitg
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    Also, if I do go the blower route, it'll be hard to put a hood on it and cover it all up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    Also, if I do go the blower route, it'll be hard to put a hood on it and cover it all up.
    How about I just start looking for a nice, low mileage PRIUS, I can trailer it up to Iowa, drop it off with the title and load up the old '40, the Hemi, and all of the associated stuff that's taking up your space and worrying you about fuel economy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rspears View Post
    How about I just start looking for a nice, low mileage PRIUS, I can trailer it up to Iowa, drop it off with the title and load up the old '40, the Hemi, and all of the associated stuff that's taking up your space and worrying you about fuel economy?
    Laugh it up while you can. You can keep the Prius or any rice crap for that matter.

    So how many of you rich retired guys drive your 8-9mpg street rods daily at over 60 miles per day? Like I said, this car will be driven and I want to "try" to get the best milage I can. It'll help me be able to drive it. I was able to squeak 15 out of the 377 TH400 combo, but it was no power house. I could go EFI but there again, my budget is low. It'd be nice to be able to load up in it and head for Texas or what ever and not worry about a lot of things. I'm addressing all the things that didn't get fixed before so it should be a lot easier to take it farther away. I was constantly repairing it before. Now it should be un presidentailly solutioned so to speak.
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    Brooks Construction 40 would be so much fun to drive around in. That has to bring nothing but smiles to people. Even the hardcore have to grin a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooting View Post
    Brooks Construction 40 would be so much fun to drive around in. That has to bring nothing but smiles to people. Even the hardcore have to grin a little.
    I first saw it and was like WTF, hmm, wow.
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    I hear what you're saying. In my calls to Hot Heads, Bill I believe is his name, told me they have an employee with a coupe that has a turbo 392 that has a lock up over drive trans and he is getting 19. It's a single carb blow through set up too. True or false, IDK
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    I hear what you're saying. In my calls to Hot Heads, Bill I believe is his name, told me they have an employee with a coupe that has a turbo 392 that has a lock up over drive trans and he is getting 19. It's a single carb blow through set up too. True or false, IDK
    If I drive my coupe home from my sisters.. I'll bet I could click off 19 mpg.. She lives in Vermont so it's all DOWNHILL! ROFL.

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