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    Great work! That is really going to look slick in there!
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    Did the photo's in #1367 and #1379 disappear for everyone? I've got the pictures of the kitten, saying Photo Not Found..... CLICK for Photo, but no joy with the click.
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    Pics are all still there for me.
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    Roger, did pictures ever show up for you? I can only guess PB was doing some maintenance??


    Well it's been rather hectic around the home front as E is nearing graduation. Seems like yesterday she was showing me how to properly wet sand bare foot..





    For shop activity, Mike has been working on a sign for a "Drummer's Lounge", since we had the wire edging tool already made up for the Biederman, he used that to give the outside bands of the arrow the beaded look...





    CAD drawing:





    Parts is parts:














    Video:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y47I...ature=youtu.be


    Meanwhile, I've been block sanding, and priming.... here the rear kick panels are now ready for upholstery...





    I did break out the Meco torch again the other day to get the dust off....






    This first coupon shows how Peter Tommasini teaches tacking in gas welding. Tack a spot, then the next is placed where the HAZ (blue ring) touches the seam between the halves. And repeat. Note how this method leaves an almost perfect HAZ for minimal distortion..





    And we had a blowout. Don't stop, keep going and come back to it.. This is fusion welded, no filler, front side shown first, then back side











    Stephen has been mocking up the power windows in the front doors so we can side step all the components and find a good location for our speakers. No pictures yet, I'll get some this week...
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    I didn't realize your CAD Drawing meant Concrete Aided Design. Cool!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP&C View Post
    Roger, did pictures ever show up for you? I can only guess PB was doing some maintenance??
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    I checked and they're all showing up again now. Thanks for checking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    I didn't realize your CAD Drawing meant Concrete Aided Design. Cool!!
    That's a good one. I've used that method a few times too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    That's a good one. I've used that method a few times too.
    Haven't we all?

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    And it isn't a new technique, there was a time when every ship in the world had her beam laid in just that fashion.

    Most impressive to see the pictures of the Titanic or one of her sister ships being laid out on the floor, I think there is a video of it on u-tube.
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    We had issue fitting the round speakers into the square holes in the door, so we used some 18 ga CRS to form some rings, the seam was gas welded.











    Then some flanges were tipped to form an adapter ring.. Stephen's first time using the Lennox..


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WolTnnoKfnM








    These will get welded into place...





    John is tying up the loose ends on the Biederman, the running board skirts were installed the other night.....











    The dump body has been painted and he expects to get that installed tomorrow evening.








    He will get it loaded up next week for the trip to Macungie PA for the truck show next weekend.
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    Had some questions about how the rings were formed, here's additional info. The outer ring is started on the Fasti-werks bead roller using the tipping die and the lower die we made last week.








    Once it started to resist the tipping (needs stretching of the flange) we changed to using the linear stretch dies in the Lennox TE250


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX0gzPlqXEw


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATRYXZ-I3CU


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KRturFOdHA








    Originally we were looking at using the area below the power window motor, but in order to clear the power connector it would be too close to the bottom of the door...





    With not much else for room in the door, we opted to open a hole at the rear area of the inner hinge brace.





    With space above for the tweeter, this will closely mimic what we have in the rear kick panels..








    The rings will get TIG welded in place, but before that we'll add a bit of structure back in the hinge brace.







    John has the Biederman loaded up and is headed up to Macungie PA today for the truck show this weekend.





    This is the "tow" vehicle with Ian Watson, who is visiting from Melbourne Australia.





    Anyone going to the Macungie show this weekend, stop by and check out the Biederman, a pretty rare truck..
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    Mike is still plugging away on the Drummer's Lounge sign.





    Saturday he started fabrication of the insert panels. One side will be plug welded in place, the other will be removeable to access the wiring for the flashing lights.


    Tracing the first pattern onto some 19 ga crs, and adding mounting flanges.





    The bend lines are run through the bead roller with a tipping die into the skate board wheel to better mark the bend location. Makes it easier to locate the upper press brake die as it will fall into the indent.





    Since everything is a tool, and we needed to fold down a bit of metal in the inside corner, a piece of angle is chosen for it's inside radius match and a body hammer with a nice barrel roll on it does the trick...











    Side #2....






    While he was busy with that, I continued on our speaker mount modification to the doors. Since we had cut away at the hinge mounting structure, we needed to add strength back in that surrounded the speaker. We chose a cone shape over cylindrical as we thought that would have less chance of collapse under stress. Our pattern is cut out and transferred to some 14 gauge cold rolled, the same thickness as the hinge structure.









    I forgot to get pictures of us rolling the cones, but basically as shown here with the pattern, the bend line was kept aligned with the vertex of the outer angle cuts, and slightly pressed, move and repeat, and continued until we have a good roll where the ends met up.











    We plan on wire edge on the edge inside the square opening, so let's use gas welding for a more pliable weld area.





    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEWXNOFgSas


    The cone is then trimmed to fit the structure profile...








    Flange is left for our wire edging of the open area...





    The flange is tipped on the bead roller and then used the linear stretch dies in the Lennox to both stretch and tip the flange over to flat.





    Then we use this modified Craftsman punch to hammer over a rounded void for the 3/16 wire to lay in..











    Then we have some modified vise grips that have a relief cut into the top so it won't slip off the wire when clamped.











    The wires were left long so they could better tie into the hinge structure, here the VEE relief is where the wire will weld to that structure.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVDpRCER54





    Tacked in place with the MIG, then TIG welded....








    All cleaned up and then primed with some epoxy primer before we weld the speaker mounting ring in place.


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    Back on our speaker mounting ring, we welded on some 8-32 hex nuts on the back side....





    Then the ring is TIG welded in the door...








    After welding, the area is scuffed and brush painted using SPI epoxy primer.








    https://youtu.be/ywadRNLIywA





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    Mighty brave, welding an 8-32 nut.

    I'd have opted to weld in a piece of rod, then drilled and tapped.

    Then, I tend to have a heavy hand when applying the heat.
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    .040 tungsten, rare earth purple band. I also put a very small amount of anti-seize on the screw threads to keep it from galling and locking onto the nut.
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