Lookin' good, Falcon. What appears to be a rat's nest of wires will become a neat, tidy bundle before you know it!! I have every confidence in you!
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Lookin' good, Falcon. What appears to be a rat's nest of wires will become a neat, tidy bundle before you know it!! I have every confidence in you!
Today I relocated the battery to the trunk, welded the O2 bungs in my headers, and made a liitle bracket to mount the fuel pump and fan relays. All of the PCM wires are ran except for the battery power, ignition power, main grounds, and these two relays. One I get it started and verify that everything works as it should, I'll paint this panel and neaten up all the wiring. Should be wrapping the headers soon and getting them on so I can start routing wires and hoses around them.
That is looking really nice!
Thanks, anybody know if there's a right way to run the ground cable on a trunk mounted battery? Not sure if I should run it down to the frame and then run a ground strap from the frame to the body or just ground it to the body. On the engine I have a ground cable running from the frame to the block.
Some get real nuts, and run a cable all the way to the starter. I'd think to run the cable to the frame, and a couple ground straps for the body. Use the star washers if you can get some.
I ran mine a short distance thru the floor, to the frame underneath the cab. Really ground a good clean spot, smeared some dielectric grease there, and used a large flat washer, bolt nut and lock washer setup. For the positive battery cable it runs all the way to the starter per wiring schematic! I also used very heavy gauge wire for the battery cables due to the longer than normal runs. I then have a ground strap running from the frame to the engine block, and will do the same with th body once all the pieces are back together.
EFI and electronics are really fussy on grounds!!!! I ground the battery to the frame, then the engine block to the frame, and even run a ground wire between those two ground points!!! Maybe overkill, but it's always worked with no problems for me!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by falconvan
When I moved my battery to the trunk I ran a 0 gage cable down to the frame in the trunk, then a second 0 gage cable from a starter mounting bolt to the frame up front. My EFI is grounded directly to that front frame connection, as close to the battery (-) terminal as was practical, not from a grounding terminal strip. I believe that it is important for that engine ground to the frame to be a healthy cable as opposed to a woven grounding strap. The woven straps are OK for "bonding", but that engine ground is going to see starter power.
Great advice, thanks all! No car stuff today, just me and my lazy old cat hanging out in the recliner waiting to watch Payton stomp the crap out of the Seahawks!
Sorry for your disappointment.:eek::rolleyes:;) After the 1st quarter Payton looked like he didn't want to be there. It's hard to understand how the Broncos had no idea of the strength of the defense about to hit them.:confused:
Go Hawks!
Jack F.
Yeah, that was beyond painful to watch. Props to Seattle for a dominating performance in every area. After the kick return at the beginning of the second half, I shut it off and watched reruns of I, Claudius the rest of the night.
Thanks for the props for the Sea Hawks, in case you weren't aware Issaquah is just east of Seattle. Maybe next year will be the year for the Rams.;)
It's hard to hold a grudge against someone who uses my last name in their user ID.:cool::)
Jack F.
That game was hard to watch. I was really surprised the Broncos played so badly. At least they made it there I guess. :LOL:
Yeah, what can you say, Ryan. Every team is going to have a day where their butts get handed to them; just too bad it was the big day.
Jack, as far as the Rams; I think we're a long ways away but its slowly getting better.
Got my headers done today, just need to tighten them up. I also took a trip to the boneyard early this morning. I was off work to take my better half to the doctor and I had a couple hours to spare this morning. I picked up a driveshaft from a Ranger that should work after a little shorting, and I found this fuse/relay box from the same truck. I think I'm going to use this instead of just mounting loose relays.
It looks super. Do you have any concerns with the header wrap helping the header tubes rust sooner? Just curious more than anything. I've only ran header wrap on some larger pipe on light trucks and always hear horror stories about header wrap on headers killing them early.
I never heard about that, 40. Mainly I wrapped them bacause I was moving the o2 sensors farther away from the motor than the stock location and wanted to retain heat, plus I had to route the one tube around the steering shaft and wanted to keep the heat off of it. I guess time will tell on this one.
I got the headers bolted down and the steering box back in today along with small stuff like swapping out the gauge sensors and running a few wires for the starter and alternator. These SHO motors use an oil cooler that bolts to the block where the oil filter goes and the filter screws onto it. Then a heater hose runs out the back of the motor, to the cooler, and back into the block through a nipple by the oil filter mount. It's a big mess of hoses that takes up a lot of room as much and as I'm trying to make it all fit, it looks like this is just not going to work around the big honker Plymouth steering box. I'm going to ditch the factory cooler and filter, screw on a remote filter adapter, and mount a remote oil cooler and filter on the core support. Slow progress; lots of trial, error, and do overs, but it's getting there.
That's what I like to call......... Revision "A"...:LOL::LOL:
It sure wouldn't be an engine swap without fitment issues would it? :LOL: Its looking nice though.
Yeah, you'd think when you're putting a 180 cubic inch V6 into a fat fendered full size car you'll have more clearance room than you know what to do with. Not the case!:LOL:
Same here woth 460 cubic inch v8 in a 48 ford truck, you'd think that huge old front end would hold more ! :)
Crikey!
I don't envy you the task of making it all fit; it looks like you've gutted a goose and thrown the entrails at it . . . what a maze of pipes and hoses!
Rather you than me mate; but having seen what you've achieved so far I'm sure you'll work it all out.
Love it when you say that, Johnboy!!! I almost used it in a post myself the other day but I couldn't remember if it started with a "C" or "K"!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnboy
I'm not exactly sure what the real definition is but I can think of several words it can substitute for!:eek::LOL:
Sorry Falcon! Now back to the amazing work on your "MoFo"!;)
Randy, I think I've called it a MOFO more than once in the past few weeks!:LOL: Lots done in the past few days; I found a belt that fit and got the tensioner mounted, intake is mounted along with all the little gizmos bolted to it and hooked up. That stuff sure eats a lot of time. I found an adapter to eliminate the factory oil cooler and mount a take off plate so it's on the way and the cooling passages for the factory one are plugged.
You're doing a fantastic job on this beast, Falcon! I predict lots of head scratchin' when you pop the hood and the crowd at the car shows try to figure out what engine you're running.
I predict lots of head scratching when I try to START it and figure out why it won't run!:LOL:
Well Falcon, gotta admit I use the term on mine sometimes, too, and it doesn't even have any "Mo" in it!!!:eek::eek::LOL::LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by falconvan
Your MoFo is looking awesome! Can't wait till crank it up time!!:D:D
Falcon great job! It sure is coming along nicely!
Thanks, Ryan. I've been sick for three days so I didnt get back out there until today. I got the O2 sensors put in and had to shorten the harness for the passenger side one. I made it way to long, not sure how I measured that wrong. I put the core support on and made a mount for the oil cooler (Caprice police car) and the remote filter. I'll have to get a 90 degree elbow to shoot the air intake sideways so the radiator will fit. Looks like a late 60s Mustang aluminum radiator is going to be the best fit. The passenger side wheel well still fits but the drivers side will need some surgery.
I also picked up a new parts hauler yesterday; it's a 2000 3/4 ton Ram van with a 5.9. A little bit of a beater but it runs great, everything works, and has lots of hauling room. Best of all, it was cheap.
Shaping up Falcon! Oil cooler looks to be a heavy duty unit and the van should be up to hauling most anything!!!!
Great work and thanks for the tip on the cooler. That should make for a cheap cooler in yards.
$10 special, Ryan. Plus it's probably made way better that the aftermarket ones.
I got all the cooler and filter lines run tonight; hope to get radiator in and maybe fuel lines run this weekend.
Lots done today; got my radiator installed, starter back in, ran the battery cables for the trunk mounted battery, did some work on the panel where the ECC and relays are going to be mounted, and notched the steering column tube to clear the drivers side header. I raised the engine 1/2" but still had to notch it; forgot to account for the thickness of the header wrap when I built the header tube around the column. Im going to have to relocate the MAF; it's hitting the top of the radiator fan and I've got the radiator as far forward as it can go and the fan as low as it can go. But all in all; it's coming along pretty good. Im hoping there's an attempt at starting the engine in the near future!
Another day closer. There seems to always be something that doesn't fit first time out of the box
Progress at any rate is still progress!!!! Nice work, Falcon!
Great work sir! There's always something more that needs to be modified as soon as you're almost done. :LOL:
Thanks! I finally hit that point where I had to stop working on the car and start cleaning; the car was full of tools and junk, every flat surface was piled with stuff and I couldn't find anything. So now everything is cleaned up and I was able to get the car to the point of a crank test. Starter circuit works and after testing some voltages on the PCM it looks like I have power where it needs to be. Next thing is to run the fuel lines and see if she's going to start. Might get there tomorrow!
WooHoo!! It's getting exciting now! LOL... Can't wait to hear it 's running. From the pics it really does look like one bad MoFo!
I've actually been watching C-list for a SHO... if I can find one for the right price I'll snag it and all the components and follow in your footsteps.
Great news Falcon, anxious to see this one get running! To me it's what Hot Rodding is about, take what you got and build what you want!!!!
It's alive! I've got a few wiring snafus to track down but it does run! Time to start reassembling and work on getting it road ready.