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Originally Posted by Mike P

Jim, I hate to do this but your post appears not to be very accurate.

( Source FactCheck.org : Obama’s Executive Orders )

Mike - You might very well be right.

BUT ........ (and I'd bet you saw that coming) you seem to be presenting "FactCheck.com" as a reliable and truthful source of information. Frankly, I believe that's not the case.

Their website is described as as “a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center” at the University of Pennsylvania. Click on the “About Us” button you quickly find the following statement: “We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics.”

To quote Colonel Potter on the old "M*A*S*H*" show, HORSE HOCKEY!

This "nonpartisan" project is funded by the Annenberg Foundation. This foundation awarded nearly $50 Million to a reform project for Chicago public schools that operated from 1995 to 2001. A founding member of the organization was Bill Ayers. On the board of directors was none other than ..... BARAK OBAMA!

I'll be darned! I didn't realize that he was nonpartisan.

I have mentioned before that I am an insomniac, and that can be a real "bummer" but it gives me time in the wee hours of the morning to ponder life's great mysteries and do some deep thinking.

(Is anybody still reading this crap?)

Anyway, last night I got up and started doing some googling. I find that a great many "truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth" websites like FactCheck have popped up in recent months. All non partisan, of course.

Jim

Just catching up on lots of good stuff here. I think we all realize neither candidate is a stellar choice. So in a sense we can all agree both of the 2 contenders stink to some degree. Secondly I think if you wade through the comments you'll find many people want better education for our kids, just can't agree how to get there.Thirdly we all would like to see more people working and less unemployment, just have different ideas on how to stimulate the economy.
Funny enough living in California, with one of the strongest liberal movements in all 50 states, our public education is going down the tubes. When I was a kid(the 60's-80) We had one of the best public education systems in the country, but now it's one of the worst. Most of the liberal people, when looking to point the finger as to why, will say it's Prop. 13(Jarvis) that fixed our property taxes ,in an attempt to stop forcing the elderly to sell their homes(because of the increasingly high rates). Yet in this strong liberal state nobody has changed that in 30years. So if a politically liberal group, shouting that a politically conservative group caused all our trouble, then it amazes me why they haven't voted a change to rectify this problem in over thirty years? Our conservative leaders will state that our educartion system is top heavy with administrator, and that instead of throwing more money at them, we need to work with what we already have. I guess I've heard the arguements from both sides for so long, and have seen stupid solutions be put foward so many times, that nobody wants to look at where the money is going. The california state retirement program was cush. You work x amount of years,until your x years old, you got
up to 75% of your last threes years average annual income, and you recieved health care for the rest of your life. Heck it was awesome. My mom worked in that system for 35 years. She was one of the unfortunates, in that she only enjoyed 2.5 years of retirement before she passed. But the majority of these folks can live 20-30 years after retirement. It wasn't hard to see that our benefits weren't financially sustainable, and that my friends is what nobody wants to state for fear of losing votes and power.
Ultimately, dump more tax dollars into stimulation of the economy, weakens the dollar, increases inflation, and leads to more unemployement. It hurts any generation to follow. It is not the answer.
Mitt is a politician, Obama is a politician, and they by nature will kiss babies while they are on the camera, and steal thier lolipops, while not being filmed. I think if more people were willing to look at the problems, and not their Party line, we might be able to approach what's wrong with america as a team, and actually solve some of those problems, vs. spouting why one side or the other is wrong, and then shoving an agenda that will never work thru, until enough voters don't buy it any more, and we elect a new spin doctor to lead us down a new path.
Therefore I vote for a new spin doctor, cause the old one isn't doing anything!

To compare this president to one of the past because of changing times and needs just doesn't make much sense. Then say he isn't doing his job because of all those EO's doesn't make sense either. Sure seems to me he has been very busy trying to get things done.No one is going to over throw the government short of a military cue.

Originally Posted by 1gary

To compare this president to one of the past because of changing times and needs just doesn't make much sense. Then say he isn't doing his job because of all those EO's doesn't make sense either. Sure seems to me he has been very busy trying to get things done.No one is going to over throw the government short of a military cue.

I sure wouldn't want to make book on that last statement.

yesterday the unemployment numbers came out at 7.8% that was planed last July unemployment rate is people registered for work if people give up they go off the unemployment role obama knows that so he issues an executive order that welfare recipients no longer have to register for work so the are not counted employed timed to hit just before the elections if you ad thoes people back in you have an 8.3% just what the c.b.o. and all the economist said it would be CAN TOU SAY CHICAGO POLITICS.....ted

as far as big bird is concerned the big bird franchise makes more than 200 million dollars a year and donates much of that to the d.n.c. he doesn't need our tax money......ted

I don't think it matters much who is president. That is whole thing is a show and tell side show that offends me congress thinks that little of me and my intelligents.
So Obama did use his power to side step a deadlocked congress is very telling who needs to be changed and who is in power.It's congress's members that need to go...............

socialism works great until you run out of other peoples money .

Hahahahahahaaaaa......... Hee hee hee hee hee hee.... Rrrroooffffllllll ic2, that is funny!

know what you got when you have a politician buried to his neck in sand ???????????







not enough sand ...............

Those executive orders that Obummer is writing are all about eliminating checks and balances which keep the government from doing anything against the wishes of the people. I suspect George Soros is writing them and Obummer is signing them.

I don't understand how the American people can be so blind.

We're just about to lose this country of ours and people like me who speak out will be eliminated. The rest of the sheeple will be put to work "toward the common good". Why can't people see this??????

Go back to post #1096 submitted by Big Tracks and read the Executive Orders slowly and carefully. What else can you make of all that, than a takeover. It's all right there in black and white.

Look at #11921. If you had the best interest of the American citizen at heart, why would you want to prevent Congress from acting for 6 months on a state of emergency declared by the President???????????????????? What do you think Thomas Jefferson would have to say about just this one item??????????????

Jim I definitely agree with you as far as "unbiased" information that is out there. I honestly don't know of any single place that a person can go to get true facts.

In a former life I was an intelligence analyst and in another a production control clerk (the person responsible for all the reports dealing with production, costs analysts, individual productivity, etc.). The few things I took away with me was…..never rely on a single source of information and even with 2 or more sources the truth often lies somewhere in the middle. The other is that facts and figures and be easily manipulated (not necessarily lied about……but put in a certain context to look favorable or unfavorable)

One of the most current examples I’ve noticed are the articles concerning campaign fund raising. The top article says Obama Raises $181 Million and the headline below it proclaims Romney raises 12 Million……..You have to read the articles to find out that Obama’s fundraising figure was over a month and Romney’s was on-line donations over a 2 day period.

I personally feel that the key to getting good elected officials is a well informed public…..a difficult situation when trying to find a media outlet that doesn’t have its own agenda.


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I do think everything here is based off a broken government system that has been broken for yrs. I truly do believe that. Seems everyone longs for a Thomas Jefferson era concept of government when given the current times that won't work and hasn't for a long,long,time.

It's funny you say that Gary, because I think we are headed towards an all powerfull government, that will dictate so many restrictions to our lives and pursuit of happiness, that many people feel oppressed like the original colonist did. People feel already they are being overtaxed by the government. I for one find it interesting, that everytime a vehicle is sold, california taxes the buyer. When I bought my 48 Ford truck, registration fees were over 500 dollars. I told the guy behind the desk, that the truck probably cost about 500 dollars new. And if they had been collecting fees on it for close to 60 years at that time, that the owners could have bought several new trucks with what was paid to legally keep this one on the road!
He just said So?
So I have to say there is alot of merit to what you said.