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Originally Posted by 1gary

To compare this president to one of the past because of changing times and needs just doesn't make much sense. Then say he isn't doing his job because of all those EO's doesn't make sense either. Sure seems to me he has been very busy trying to get things done.No one is going to over throw the government short of a military cue.

I sure wouldn't want to make book on that last statement.

Originally Posted by Mike P

Jim, I hate to do this but your post appears not to be very accurate. However the facts that are hopefully (?) correct, are still just as dismaying to me.



"......It’s true, however, that Obama is employing his executive powers now more than ever before during his presidency.

Obama has been sidestepping Congress through his “We Can’t Wait” initiative, a series of executive actions that he claims benefit the middle class through infrastructure projects and economic policy changes.

He also skirted Senate approval in January when he appointed nominees to the National Labor Relations Board and to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The appointments were unprecedented because he made them when the Senate was technically not in recess, prompting legal challenges from conservative groups.

In June, the president halted deportations of illegal immigrants who entered the United States when they were children and met certain requirements, such as the lack of a criminal record. The change mirrored provisions of the DREAM Act — failed legislation that Obama supported and Senate Republicans blocked in 2010.

And in July, Obama changed welfare policy to allow states to modify work requirements if they test new approaches to increasing employment. Obama did not submit the policy change to Congress for review, which the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office concluded he should have done......."


( Source FactCheck.org : Obama’s Executive Orders )

A lot of times the EOs are basically just administrative tools, however Obama's use of them to cirumvent decisions that should belong to the congress who are supposed to represent the people really bothers me.




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I can't vouch for anything that's in there, Mike, and I can't dispute anything that's in there either. My own contribution to that lengthy speech consists of the three sentences above the dotted line.

I will agree with you, if there are inaccuracies in it or if there are not, it's still enough to scare the britches off of just about anybody.

Jim

yesterday the unemployment numbers came out at 7.8% that was planed last July unemployment rate is people registered for work if people give up they go off the unemployment role obama knows that so he issues an executive order that welfare recipients no longer have to register for work so the are not counted employed timed to hit just before the elections if you ad thoes people back in you have an 8.3% just what the c.b.o. and all the economist said it would be CAN TOU SAY CHICAGO POLITICS.....ted

as far as big bird is concerned the big bird franchise makes more than 200 million dollars a year and donates much of that to the d.n.c. he doesn't need our tax money......ted

I don't think it matters much who is president. That is whole thing is a show and tell side show that offends me congress thinks that little of me and my intelligents.
So Obama did use his power to side step a deadlocked congress is very telling who needs to be changed and who is in power.It's congress's members that need to go...............

socialism works great until you run out of other peoples money .

Hahahahahahaaaaa......... Hee hee hee hee hee hee.... Rrrroooffffllllll ic2, that is funny!

know what you got when you have a politician buried to his neck in sand ???????????







not enough sand ...............

Those executive orders that Obummer is writing are all about eliminating checks and balances which keep the government from doing anything against the wishes of the people. I suspect George Soros is writing them and Obummer is signing them.

I don't understand how the American people can be so blind.

We're just about to lose this country of ours and people like me who speak out will be eliminated. The rest of the sheeple will be put to work "toward the common good". Why can't people see this??????

Go back to post #1096 submitted by Big Tracks and read the Executive Orders slowly and carefully. What else can you make of all that, than a takeover. It's all right there in black and white.

Look at #11921. If you had the best interest of the American citizen at heart, why would you want to prevent Congress from acting for 6 months on a state of emergency declared by the President???????????????????? What do you think Thomas Jefferson would have to say about just this one item??????????????

Originally Posted by Mike P

Jim, I hate to do this but your post appears not to be very accurate.

( Source FactCheck.org : Obama’s Executive Orders )

Mike - You might very well be right.

BUT ........ (and I'd bet you saw that coming) you seem to be presenting "FactCheck.com" as a reliable and truthful source of information. Frankly, I believe that's not the case.

Their website is described as as “a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center” at the University of Pennsylvania. Click on the “About Us” button you quickly find the following statement: “We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics.”

To quote Colonel Potter on the old "M*A*S*H*" show, HORSE HOCKEY!

This "nonpartisan" project is funded by the Annenberg Foundation. This foundation awarded nearly $50 Million to a reform project for Chicago public schools that operated from 1995 to 2001. A founding member of the organization was Bill Ayers. On the board of directors was none other than ..... BARAK OBAMA!

I'll be darned! I didn't realize that he was nonpartisan.

I have mentioned before that I am an insomniac, and that can be a real "bummer" but it gives me time in the wee hours of the morning to ponder life's great mysteries and do some deep thinking.

(Is anybody still reading this crap?)

Anyway, last night I got up and started doing some googling. I find that a great many "truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth" websites like FactCheck have popped up in recent months. All non partisan, of course.

Jim

Jim I definitely agree with you as far as "unbiased" information that is out there. I honestly don't know of any single place that a person can go to get true facts.

In a former life I was an intelligence analyst and in another a production control clerk (the person responsible for all the reports dealing with production, costs analysts, individual productivity, etc.). The few things I took away with me was…..never rely on a single source of information and even with 2 or more sources the truth often lies somewhere in the middle. The other is that facts and figures and be easily manipulated (not necessarily lied about……but put in a certain context to look favorable or unfavorable)

One of the most current examples I’ve noticed are the articles concerning campaign fund raising. The top article says Obama Raises $181 Million and the headline below it proclaims Romney raises 12 Million……..You have to read the articles to find out that Obama’s fundraising figure was over a month and Romney’s was on-line donations over a 2 day period.

I personally feel that the key to getting good elected officials is a well informed public…..a difficult situation when trying to find a media outlet that doesn’t have its own agenda.


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I do think everything here is based off a broken government system that has been broken for yrs. I truly do believe that. Seems everyone longs for a Thomas Jefferson era concept of government when given the current times that won't work and hasn't for a long,long,time.

It's funny you say that Gary, because I think we are headed towards an all powerfull government, that will dictate so many restrictions to our lives and pursuit of happiness, that many people feel oppressed like the original colonist did. People feel already they are being overtaxed by the government. I for one find it interesting, that everytime a vehicle is sold, california taxes the buyer. When I bought my 48 Ford truck, registration fees were over 500 dollars. I told the guy behind the desk, that the truck probably cost about 500 dollars new. And if they had been collecting fees on it for close to 60 years at that time, that the owners could have bought several new trucks with what was paid to legally keep this one on the road!
He just said So?
So I have to say there is alot of merit to what you said.

"Here's some TRUTH about the conservative BS machine you might want to watch."

Lefty would never have a BS machine, they are the poster children for that. Not going to waste my time viewing some joke show. I also do not want trickel down government.

Will tell ya I did see the debate. How about you, enjoy that show did ya ?