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Oops you seem to want some respect for a dud, answer your own question, how much respect did Bush get ?

I love it when those who drink the cool-aid spout regarding the jobs lost when Bain closed plants, sent jobs away, killed innocent people, etc. Gee, wasnt Bain in the business of buying sinking businesses and trying to salvage something? They are a lot like salvage yards except they dealt in corporations instead of junk cars. Buy a sinking ship, scrap the unsaveable and build the rest into something of value to sell. These guys took risks so they DESERVE to make a huge profit.....because of the risk they probably lost some big $$ on some of the clunkers.

Of course, the workers think they got screwed. Of course, they (the workers) were the only compentent employees of the sinking ship. Of course, it was management's fault (it may well have been). None of the media has ever reported on the JOBS SAVED when Bain took the turd and salvaged something of value. Gee, if Bain had not bought the sinking ship, zero jobs would have been saved and the workers all would be looking.

Mr. Romney is guilty of one thing that Mr. Obama is envious of: Success

I guess I'm not as old as Charlie... HMmmm.. my Dad always taught me how to tell when a politician was lying....
yep, the lips are moving.

And whenever you see the word incumbent next to a name on a ballot, you MUST vote for the other guy/gal! If the rest of you would've followed my example, we'd never have gotten into this mess! 8-)

I honestly think you have a plan

Well, I cannot say that many of my choices are ever elected.. sadly enough..

Originally Posted by 34_40

Well, I cannot say that many of my choices are ever elected.. sadly enough..

seem to have the same problem hopefully not this time

Romney flipped flopped on three issues for political gains,not core believes in his history.Two big ones was abortion and a deal he made with Kennedy that took 400 million out of the Bush budget which certainly helped get us in the current jam we are now in.It was historic because that deal was after Kennedy handed Romney his butt in a election showing everyone Romney isn't ready for a national election/position.

It is kind of telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc so he knew what to say??.

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands". Also he is once again flip flopping about the national debt when he helped it get to where it is. He was directly involved it that. Oh yeah,his state health care plan mirrors Obama's. These are the facts about the candidate. His positions are that for political gains and certainly not core believes.

Originally Posted by 1gary

Romney flipped flopped on three issues for political gains,not core believes in his history.Two big ones was abortion and a deal he made with Kennedy that took 400 million out of the Bush budget which certainly helped get us in the current jam we are now in.It was historic because that deal was after Kennedy handed Romney his butt in a election showing everyone Romney isn't ready for a national election/position.

It is kind of telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc so he knew what to say??.

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands". Also he is once again flip flopping about the national debt when he helped it get to where it is. He was directly involved it that. Oh yeah,his state health care plan mirrors Obama's. These are the facts about the candidate. His positions are that for political gains and certainly not core believes.

telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc (nope it was a hankie/snot rag) so he knew what to say??.
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Obozo has had 4 years to do the same and not been able to do that, what's your point?

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands".

You do not know this and are unable to state any provable fact regarding this. You open the door and throw in these bombs. It is one thing to say these kind of things but you must have a fact or two to back it up.

If I were drag racing you or your crew, and you kept waxing me. Would it be fair of me to say 1gary is a cheater cause he wins races ?
People would be asking me is that all you got, and rightly so.

Originally Posted by pepi

telling because of the above why it has taken sooooo long for Romney to state his positions on anything.Could it be his team needed time to properly fit him with a ear pc (nope it was a hankie/snot rag) so he knew what to say??.
"

Obozo has had 4 years to do the same and not been able to do that, what's your point?

Everyone put so much value in the fact he is in business when his dealings in that certainly isn't with "clean hands".

You do not know this and are unable to state any provable fact regarding this. You open the door and throw in these bombs. It is one thing to say these kind of things but you must have a fact or two to back it up.

If I were drag racing you or your crew, and you kept waxing me. Would it be fair of me to say 1gary is a cheater cause he wins races ?
People would be asking me is that all you got, and rightly so.

Actually two PBS stations had documentaries going on at the same time about each candidate yesterday and their political and life histories.To capsulize Rooney's wealth and business success you don't these days get that rich without making deals with the devil. But there are facts to stand behind what I am saying..............

Just the mere fact he has flip-flopped on issues for political gain is more than enough proof he has no core believes and is a sell out party puppet saying what they want. They gutted him and he isn't even on the other side of the belt-way yet!!. A leader??. I think not.

[QUOTE=1gary;476847]Actually two PBS stations had documentaries going on at the same time about each candidate yesterday and their political and life histories.To capsulize Rooney's wealth and business success you don't these days get that rich without making deals with the devil. But there are facts to stand behind what I am saying..............

Bring on your facts, I may n eed them to sway my vote.

Kool-aid! Kool-aid! getcha Kool-aid here* It's gooood for ya!!


PBS is NOT an impartial and unbiased source of political, economic or personal historical information as it has the same financial and liberal roots and desires as the now renown Big Bird territory, NPR.


* Sez Jim Jones in an impassioned speech to his friends and neighbors in Jonestown, Guyana, 11/18/'78

Gary - lots of luck to you. This 'conversation' is beyond redemption.
You have not a single clue as to what I said. Bye bye.

Mr Mustang /Bill. Dump me if you deem it necessary

gary how about making a list on obama ? just two for mitt ? you say national debt must not be a big deal as obama could have dealed with that . but instead jamed a heath care plane threw . but still has no plan for the budget. there is no easy answer on abortion over the years i changed my mind on this so it.s not the only deal breaker for me. funny that some adult pepole have no self control over there body but you want the government to pay for something thats not planed .well thats not the government that.s paying .that is US paying.... WE HAVE NO MONEY for starter big bird and can help obama pack is bags

Have you noticed that most people, especially Politicians, will try to tear their adversary down instead of standing on their own accomplishments. That goes for domestic quarrels, debates and this thread. Is that just the way the "Western World" functions or are we so concerned with the bad attributes that we don't care about the good ones?

Originally Posted by MelloYello

Have you noticed that most people, especially Politicians, will try to tear their adversary down instead of standing on their own accomplishments. That goes for domestic quarrels, debates and this thread. Is that just the way the "Western World" functions or are we so concerned with the bad attributes that we don't care about the good ones?

The sad reality is that, as much as we might say we don't like negative characterizations (e.g. advertising), they work............that's why they get used over and over again. I've been on a mini-campaign here and elsewhere to urge fellow travelers to not buckle under the constant barage of negative propaganda, and fail to vote. That's one of the underlying objectives of the assault...............suppress voter participation.

One of my concerns is that now that the polls appear to be shifting against the Pres., that those who share the desire to send him into retirement will become complacent and become ambivalent about getting to the polls or voting by absentee ballot. DON"T DO THAT!! The "game" is not over til the last ballot is cast. And there will be lots of low down games played. Just as one example, various overseas military absentee voting stations report that they have not received absentee ballots for between 40 and 70% of their charges. We can speculate as to the causes, but the bottom line is that these soldiers are being disenfranchised ..................not in speculation like the phony arguments against voter I.D. requirements.............but in reality.

This business about "liar" and "flip flop" is a similar campaign tactic.............get your non-thinking constituents to amplify the charges without any factual backup. In psychology it's a pathology known as "projection"...........charge the other guy with the negative you are actually doing. The Pres. and his subjects want you to believe he doesn't have a record to be measured against. Well, here are a couple lists of REAL examples of flip flopping and unfulfilled promises (grab your favorite beverage first, especially for the first one, it's 5 pages): PolitiFact | The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken


CLICK HERE! The Complete List of Obama Flip-Flops - President Obama - Fox Nation

Again, vote vote vote................no matter how good or bad the polling looks, no matter how many negative ads you're pummelled with, no matter how blue your state, make your vote count.

This is not in line with subjects that are currently appearing in this thread, but I'm curious about something.

On Oct.1 a good friend sent me an email that contained a link to the "Obama 2016" video. My wife and I were able to see the movie in its entirety. Jane suggested that if we wanted to forward it we should do so quickly because it is certain to be taken off the internet.

We forwarded it to maybe two dozen people. A few got it but most of them only got a bunch of advertisements.

I understand copyright protection and I'm all for it, but who has the authority to "pull the plug" so to speak, and how do they do it? Maybe the producers? However it is done, it happened quickly and effectively.

Jim