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10-05-2012 09:00 AM #1
You know this thread is an indication of just how GREAT of a country this is. All can provide their opinion without ANY fear of reprisal!!!
God Bless America! and special thanks to our armed forces around the world!
But if anyone thinks that Romney presented facts to back up his claims...Last edited by Hot Rod Surfer; 10-05-2012 at 09:52 AM.
...at least I'm enjoying the ride!
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10-05-2012 09:57 AM #2
That has been one of the more humorous displays of late, especially in debate post mortem. All those fine folks who voted in the relatively unknown guy in 2008 based on his bumper sticker slogan of "Hope and Change" supported entirely by platitudes and ultimately undelivered promises are now drilling Romney for "specifics".Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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10-06-2012 05:25 AM #3
Until MR can tell me where the money to right the ship is coming from all he is, is a talking head, a politician and not a leader with a solution. At least our President is providing those facts, even though they may not be the best, they are quantifiable. Undelivered promises are also backed by facts, MR needs to bring some to the table...and lose that chesire cat grin!
But perhaps most importantly, when MR sees removing $$$ from NPR as a big step in the right direction (Fed govt. only provides 15% of the total funding for NRP), what other social services will follow? Medicare? Medicaid? Welfare? Other non-revenue Arts? Unfortunately I believe that people will physically suffer with MR at the helm and I don't want that to happen. I also appreciate that our President is looking out for the middle class of which my family is firmly planted in, while MR's wealth allows him a whole different viewpoint on life that may not be in my best interest.
All of us need to think about what we are voting for, not against when we go to the polls in November.
I will now go back to the Hot Rod Threads, discuss away! God Bless America!...at least I'm enjoying the ride!
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10-06-2012 07:20 AM #4
HRS. The "facts" from the pres. are not real. IMHO.. how can we continue to build our country on a house of cards? No one wants to see any of our citizens hurt, but, when those cards come crashing down, we will all suffer! There is just no way we can survive with a 15 TRILLION dollar debt! And that is a fact! If we continue to spend more than we take in, we as a country are doomed as we'll take down the worlds economy with us! That is another fact!
I agree with you that we need to think hard about what we're voting for in a few weeks. The reality as I see it is this, no matter what happens we'll pay, always have, always will... it's just how much harder will the landing be if we choose to be financially wreckless?
I hope you take this in the spirit that it's intended! Just a different viewpoint than yours! Thanks..Last edited by 34_40; 10-06-2012 at 07:23 AM. Reason: spelling
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10-04-2012 03:49 PM #5
Mr. Romney handed Mr. Obama his head last night. Try as I might, I could see nothing from the President that encouraged me he had anything new. I enjoyed the debate – especially the times when Mr. Romney said something profound and Mr. Obama got that “I’ve really got gas…” look on his face and he had absolutely no comeback. For those who claim Mr. Romney has no plan they should have listened last night – he appeared to be poised, he was articulate and transparent. Mr. Obama appeared nervous, he stuttered and stammered, and continued to use the same rhetoric he’s been pushing for four years. To re-elect him would be akin to re-sailing the Titanic, ramming the iceberg at full speed ahead and expecting different results.
My two cents...
Glenn"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty." John Basil Barnhil
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10-04-2012 04:43 PM #6
some on the left are saying obama had a bad day
some say he did good ??? the way i seen it MR Romney handed him his ass . they say the next debate there will be a New Obama ?? boy i am not sure about that . Romney was holding back the way i seen it . obama should call in sick for the next debate and have the empty chair fill in for him
Last edited by pat mccarthy; 10-04-2012 at 04:45 PM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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10-04-2012 04:55 PM #7
The best TV show I have ever seen, was a real debate and the media had zero control. Romney came with facts, dignity and did not let his message get skewed. Says a lot when the guy on the defense ask to have the subject changed hope you caught that, priceless.
I'm jazzed!
I have two brains, one is lost and the other is out looking for it
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10-04-2012 05:14 PM #8
another debate like that and obama will be voting for romney .
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10-04-2012 07:02 PM #9
Listening to the Obamabots today makes me wish I'd bought stock in Koolaid a couple days ago..............
Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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10-05-2012 05:12 AM #10
first year economics teaches you that a broader tax base will bring in more revenue than higher taxes. until the ratio of employed to population gets back to at least 65% or close to it we will continue to have these problems. true unemployment is around 11%+ right now and set to grow next year under obama.
higher taxes is simply redistribution of wealth by the fed. lower taxes puts the money into the economy most often by job creation , which increases revenue. corporations create more taxes through jobs than any tax rate you can impose on them . people seem to forget who does the hiring in this country. i've never been offered a job by a person on welfare .
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10-05-2012 05:20 AM #11
Let me throw something out for some discussion. My wife, a former fairly high level, though now retired HR manager has been watching the Prez physically and mentally degrade over the past year or so. Her impression is that he may have a substance abuse problem. He has lost a great deal of weight and his utterances have gotten disjointed and stumbling, even with his teleprompter plus his message is pure rhetoric with nothing new. He has a history, last campaign, of being able to captivate full auditoriums, now, he can't begin to fill most of them. I know I couldn't maintain a schedule such as he is keeping without the help of some sort of pharmaceuticals, legal, of course ;=}Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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10-05-2012 05:58 AM #12
the look he gave someone left of stage early on told me he knew he was in trouble. the hopey changey thing just aint gonna fly this time. bush did it is just not an excuse any more.
if romney was such an bad governor why aren't the dems from mass raising hell ?
by the way. the pipeline will help nothing. we are a net exporter of gas and diesel already . by letting the cost skyrocket they are trying to shove electric down our throats .
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10-05-2012 06:12 AM #13
[QUOTE=shine;476358] if romney was such an bad governor why aren't the dems from mass raising hell ? QUOTE]
Because they got what they wanted! Mass Health! Forced insurance for everyone. What's that? You don't have insurance? Well, you do now and we're going to charge you at a higher rate as a penalty for not joining when you were supposed to...
And yes. Mass Health is a better insurance than what my employer helps provide me if you look at the program that my employer subsidizes Mass Health! The "NON" citizens get it for free also!
Welcome to Massachusetts! Thanks Mitt!
I think even if we "win"... we "lose"..
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10-05-2012 06:03 AM #14
The Left (*and Leftist Media) keeps making excuses for Obama's performance in debate.
Altitude?
Unprepared?
The flu?
Jet lag?
Lethargic?
They are missing the OBVIOUS.
What if Obama prepared for three days (as he did) and still was incapable of debating someone who tells the TRUTH?I have two brains, one is lost and the other is out looking for it
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10-05-2012 06:14 AM #15
scare the old people, scare the welfare folks, scare the teachers etc etc . truth is romney did none of that in mass .
my bride just retired from teaching and i can tell you the #1 thing wrong is government in the classroom.
i dont particularly like romney but i trust his experience over obama's lack of experience. 4 years and he's learned nothing .





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