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a man must accept his station in life or change it. begrudging another mans success neither raises you up nor diminishes his achievements . i have worked with many people of wealth. i found that their day is normally 12 to 14 hrs long. do not confuse tv with reality .

Originally Posted by prpmmp

Went to Harvard Law School and worked as a civil rights lawyer!! Pete

You do not know what you are talking about again!!

Need to check that one there prpmmp, he lectured at Harvard and you are correct on 1 point. His lectures where ... big surprise coming, race or civil rights if you wish. Here is another factoid for your mind. Only 23% ever signed up for another all inspiring obama lecture. A lecturer is not a lawyer just an fyi for ya.

So when you come to a gun fight bring a loaded gun...

I recieved this in an e-mail and do not know how valid it is...

Fox News is going to air the documentary Obama 2016.
HEADS UP For This Sunday Night 9:00 PM TO ALL AMERICANS, DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENTS RIGHT OR LEFT.

Things could get interesting!

Originally Posted by pepi

You do not know what you are talking about again!!

Need to check that one there prpmmp, he lectured at Harvard and you are correct on 1 point. His lectures where ... big surprise coming, race or civil rights if you wish. Here is another factoid for your mind. Only 23% ever signed up for another all inspiring obama lecture. A lecturer is not a lawyer just an fyi for ya.

So when you come to a gun fight bring a loaded gun...

Obama got start in civil rights practice
This photo provided by Harvard University Law School shows Barack Obama as a student at the school in Cambridge, Mass., Feb. 6, 1990. Obama came to Harvard in the fall of 1988 after graduating from Columbia University and spending four years as a community organizer in Chicago. At the end of his first year, Obama was selected to serve on the Law Review as one of 80 "editor"-students; midway through his second year, on Feb. 5, 1990, Obama was elected president, becoming the first black president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review. (AP Photo/Harvard University, Joe Wrinn)
By Mike Robinson, Associated Press Writer | February 20, 2007

CHICAGO --Attorney Judson Miner called Harvard to offer a job to a graduating student named Barack Obama and didn't expect to be showered with gratitude. Still, he wasn't expecting the reception he got.

"You can leave your name and take a number," the woman who answered the phone at the Harvard Law Review said breezily. "You're No. 647."

That was 1991 and even then Obama -- the Illinois senator now seeking the Democratic presidential nomination -- was a hot commodity.

As the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama had his pick of top law firms. He chose Miner's Chicago civil rights firm, where he represented community organizers, discrimination victims and black voters trying to force a redrawing of city ward boundaries.

Like many lawyers, Obama never took part in a trial. He spent most of his nine-year career working as part of a team, drawing up contracts, briefs and other legal papers.

The firm of Miner Barnhill & Galland, many of whose members have Harvard and Yale law degrees, has a reputation that fits nicely into the resume of a future presidential candidate.

"It's a real do-good firm," says Fay Clayton, lead counsel for the National Organization for Women in a landmark lawsuit aimed at stopping abortion clinic violence. "Barack and that firm were a perfect fit. He wasn't going to make as much money there as he would at a LaSalle Street firm or in New York, but money was never Barack's first priority anyway."

The firm offered another advantage to Obama. It was close to the political action.

Miner was Chicago's corporation counsel under Harold Washington, the city's first black mayor, in the 1980s when Washington was battling for control of the City Council against remnants of the once-mighty Machine.

Miner introduced Obama to a number of people in politics. Obama already knew many others, having worked as an organizer in the black community before he entered law school.

Obama was part of a team of attorneys who represented the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois in 1995 for failing to implement a federal law designed to make it easier for the poor and others to register as voters.

A federal court ordered the state to implement the law.

Obama also wrote a major portion of an appeals brief on behalf of a whistleblower who exposed waste and corruption in a research project involving Cook County Hospital and the Hektoen Institute for Medical Research and alleged that she was fired in retaliation.

The case was settled out of court. The county agreed to pay the federal government $5 million, part of which went to the whistleblower, Dr. Janet Chandler. Hektoen agreed to pay $500,000 to the government plus $170,000 to Chandler for wrongful termination.

And Obama was part of a team of lawyers representing black voters and aldermen that forced Chicago to redraw ward boundaries that the City Council drew up after the 1990 census. They said the boundaries were discriminatory.

After an appeals court ruled the map violated the federal Voting Rights Act, attorneys for both sides drew up a new set of ward boundaries.

Public records at the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission -- which handles ethical questions concerning the state's lawyers -- indicate there were no complaints against attorney Obama.

Obama's legal work fell off sharply in 1997 after his election to the Illinois Senate.

"On his second day down in Springfield he called me and said, 'Don't pay me -- this is a full-time job,'" Miner recalls.

Obama agreed to work for the firm in summer when the legislature was out of session. His law license became inactive in 2002 as politics took over.

For all his passion for civil rights, Obama did have a bit of experience working in a large firm with big corporate clients. In 1988, he was a summer associate at the big Chicago firm now known as Sidley Austin.

Like most summer associates, he worked on research projects.

It was there that he met Michelle Robinson, a young Harvard law graduate assigned as his mentor at the firm. They were married four years later.

Neither Obama lingered in corporate law. She stayed with the firm for three years and moved on. She is now a vice president at the University of Chicago.

Besides his practice, Barack Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago.

"He was very engaging, approachable and human," recalls Patrick Jasperse, now a Justice Department trial attorney based in Washington.

Obama's view of the law was shaped in part by his years before law school as a community organizer working with the poor in Chicago's housing projects.

In his 1995 book, "Dreams From My Father," he said the law could sometimes be "a sort of glorified accounting that serves to regulate the affairs of those who have power -- and that all too often seeks to explain, to those who do not, the ultimate wisdom and justness of their condition."

"I try to do my small part in reversing this tide," he wrote.

Obama got start in civil rights practice - Boston.com

Originally Posted by pepi

He is not a laywer, never was never has been, need to check the facts.

You are right!! He is not a laywer!! He 's a LAWYER!! Pete

Originally Posted by prpmmp

You are right!! He is not a laywer!! He 's a LAWYER!! Pete

......laywer man your quick only took you 3 hours to notice that

Oh well !! ........ Guess I should have said lier that's closer to the truth, he is still not a lawyer and never has been, no law degree and bar exam results recorded.

Oh yes on the other large copy and past above, you do any thinking on your own or just chug that cool-aid? That is plagiarism on your part and propaganda from the author and has been shredded.

Seriously I do not care what you think or care much about what you have to say. Your gun is empty like the chair Clint was talking to.

Originally Posted by pepi

......laywer man your quick only took you 3 hours to notice that

Oh well !! ........ Guess I should have said lier that's closer to the truth, he is still not a lawyer and never has been, no law degree and bar exam results recorded.

Oh yes on the other large copy and past above, you do any thinking on your own or just chug that cool-aid? That is plagiarism on your part and propaganda from the author and has been shredded.

Seriously I do not care what you think or care much about what you have to say. Your gun is empty like the chair Clint was talking to.

WOW!! You do have a nice car!! And if you click on the link at the bottom thats the article!! Also try Wikipedia!! Pete

Mr Mustang (Bill) after a great as well as long run, I do believe this thread needs your attention. I don't want it deleted, but at least 'locked' for a while for emotions to cool

Originally Posted by IC2

Mr Mustang (Bill) after a great as well as long run, I do believe this thread needs your attention. I don't want it deleted, but at least 'locked' for a while for emotions to cool

Aw come!! Pepi and I don't mean any harm!!Were just a couple of drunks with a keyboard!! Pete

why? dont we have enough censorship in our life as it is ? this is most likely the last chance for our country . this election is more important than any other in history. we stand the chance of losing the very rights our country was founded on. stop whining because romney is wealthy and and do your homework. obama has failed and all the hope and change in the world will not change that. he is viewed as weak and apologetic by the world. they do not fear him . obamacare is one of the most underhanded bills ever introduced into law. if you think it is just about healthcare read some more. there is way too much hidden in it . it is a collection of socialist views that have been in waiting for 50 years by the extreme left. look at the size of it. he can put this together in a short time but cannot address the economic problems in 3 1/2 years ? something is rotten in all this . i am neither a democrat nor a republican. i am an american . i say give a president 1 term to make a difference, if not get rid of him . another 4 years will make no difference . same with congress . why does no one get worked up over congress and the senate . most do not even vote in this country .

as for locking or moderating these post i'm not a fan. i do not need a keeper nor a defender. in the 10 years i have been a moderator elsewhere i have deleted maybe 15 post . i do it silently without all the chest pounding threats and bs. if you dont like someones post ignore it.

Originally Posted by shine

.....as for locking or moderating these post i'm not a fan. i do not need a keeper nor a defender. in the 10 years i have been a moderator elsewhere i have deleted maybe 15 post . i do it silently without all the chest pounding threats and bs. if you dont like someones post ignore it.

I agree, Shine, I don't see a need to lock the thread, and I find it far more effective to communicate with moderators or administrators via PM or e-mail if I have a problem, or think I have a problem. No need to stir the pot with my complaint in public, which might go away with a few well chosen words from a calmer head. That said, everyone here has the same rights to free expression, as long as they keep it between the ditches.

This thread has been one of the most successful threads posted.It needs not to be locked. The only time a issue spills out on the open forum is when that exposure is the only way to resolve the issue.
I served as a Admin on a sizable Chevy forum for two yrs. You do want to trust the membership to be mature enough to work out their own problems and limit or be invisible as much as you can to be a good mod or Admin.

Originally Posted by IC2

Mr Mustang (Bill) after a great as well as long run, I do believe this thread needs your attention. I don't want it deleted, but at least 'locked' for a while for emotions to cool

My hope is that those who have crossed the line are mature enough to realize it and take a step back on their own. Of course if this does not happen after my post in red (it does catch your attention, doesn't it ), then this thread will be locked and any and all political posts after will be removed without warning and those continuing will be banned from the site (again without warning). It's not about freedom of speech, it's about adhering to the terms and conditions each one of us agreed to when we opened up our user accounts.

Bill S.

Originally Posted by shine

why? dont we have enough censorship in our life as it is ? this is most likely the last chance for our country . this election is more important than any other in history. we stand the chance of losing the very rights our country was founded on. stop whining because romney is wealthy and and do your homework. obama has failed and all the hope and change in the world will not change that. he is viewed as weak and apologetic by the world. they do not fear him . obamacare is one of the most underhanded bills ever introduced into law. if you think it is just about healthcare read some more. there is way too much hidden in it . it is a collection of socialist views that have been in waiting for 50 years by the extreme left. look at the size of it. he can put this together in a short time but cannot address the economic problems in 3 1/2 years ? something is rotten in all this . i am neither a democrat nor a republican. i am an american . i say give a president 1 term to make a difference, if not get rid of him . another 4 years will make no difference . same with congress . why does no one get worked up over congress and the senate . most do not even vote in this country .

as for locking or moderating these post i'm not a fan. i do not need a keeper nor a defender. in the 10 years i have been a moderator elsewhere i have deleted maybe 15 post . i do it silently without all the chest pounding threats and bs. if you dont like someones post ignore it.

Well said my friend! For a man of few words, you just said a whole lot!!

I hope and pray that there are enough of us who finally say, "We're not going to sit by and watch this once great country slide into oblivion! We're going to vote! The "over 50" crowd could certainly change the direction if we can overcome the apathetic mind set that says, "it doesn't matter if I vote.." It does matter!

Don't lock this one down - I think we're all enjoying the participation and the passion for America is obvious from all participants. One of the things that make us the nation we are is the freedoms we enjoy.

Regards All,
Glenn

in my opinion moderators should be silent and invisible . i have left sites because of overbearing moderators suffering from little man syndrome. i am a grown man and dont need a keeper . i am a member of several sites that do not have moderators that you can see. unsatisfactory post just disappear . if discussing the horrible state our country is in is unacceptable tell me now and i will go elsewhere . i still work for my living so it is important to me as i am the one who will be paying for this mess coming from the current administration .