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    Quote Originally Posted by Driver50x View Post
    I did that as a little bit of a theft deterrent. An exposed small block Chevy is extremely easy to hot wire. At least now someone would have to crawl under the car and find the solenoid in order to hot wire it.
    Not a bad idea, I got a hidden kill switch hooked to the engine computer on Rita as well.
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    I plan on also adding a hidden toggle switch between the ignition switch and switch and the solenoid.
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    I did a real easy theft switch, take a extra floor 3 way dimmer switch, mount it up high on the firewall behind the carpet, run the coil wire to the common, a led on one pole and off to the coil on the other, when you hop in and turn the key on and the led is lit, you reach up with your toe, bump the switch, led goes off and you drive away, simple cheap and they won't find it easily, I read it in a magazine years ago. Best of luck matt
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    That’s a good idea. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driver50x View Post
    I did that as a little bit of a theft deterrent. An exposed small block Chevy is extremely easy to hot wire. At least now someone would have to crawl under the car and find the solenoid in order to hot wire it.
    I was just curious and wondering if you were part of the crowd that thinks wiring a Ford solenoid in series with a GM solenoid fixes a starter heat soak issue. Yours is a more practical application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY View Post
    I was just curious and wondering if you were part of the crowd that thinks wiring a Ford solenoid in series with a GM solenoid fixes a starter heat soak issue. Yours is a more practical application.
    I think most people that use the ford solenoid as a remote unit are doing so when they move their battery from stock so they don't have a large hot battery cable running from one end of the car to the other. Plus itsaves money and weight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    I think most people that use the ford solenoid as a remote unit are doing so when they move their battery from stock so they don't have a large hot battery cable running from one end of the car to the other. Plus itsaves money and weight.
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    I disagree. Putting a Ford solenoid in the circuit increases the total resistance which will ultimately increase the gauge of the positive cable. The larger the gauge the less resistance it will have as well as more current carrying capacity. As an example what was the size of the positive cable originally in your Vette?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    I think most people that use the ford solenoid as a remote unit are doing so when they move their battery from stock so they don't have a large hot battery cable running from one end of the car to the other. Plus itsaves money and weight.


    Driver50x, it is loking very nice! You have to be getting excited now!

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    That is correct... for safety on a hot wire...

    Due to the amount of resistance and from ((heat soak)) mostly, in the starter motor windings, and solenoid , the battery may not be able to supply the required current to the starter through the stock solenoid that would be required. This is where the Ford solenoid comes into play. To isolate the heat soak problem. The size of wire, and type of wire, is determined by how long it will be, and what the amp draw is that the starter requires to turn the engine over. And don't forget to add a heat shield for the starter...
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    When I was racing stock cars we used a Ford solenoid so the positive cable in the front of the car was only energized when starting the car (as 40FordDeluxe said above). The reason was because in case of a crash, if the cable was pinched and grounded it could cause the battery to explode. Since the battery was right behind my seat I was avoiding the possibility of an acid bath. In the case of a hot rod (street rod), especially those with open engines, a hidden solenoid could be an added theft deterrent.
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    Absolutely... Plus, I only like the wire to be hot only if I want it to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
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    Driver50x, it is loking very nice! You have to be getting excited now!

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    Thanks Ryan! Itís great to see some visible progress. I might fire up the engine pretty soon, just to make some noise, and help keep me motivated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driver50x View Post
    I might fire up the engine pretty soon, just to make some noise, and help keep me motivated.
    Definitely! That's one of those milestones that seems to make things all worth it.

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    It's getting exciting now! We're at Gulf Shores a couple weeks ago, I thought about driving down and paying you a visit but St Petersburg is quite a jog from there.
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    Cool! Gulf Shores is a pretty neat area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY View Post
    I disagree. Putting a Ford solenoid in the circuit increases the total resistance which will ultimately increase the gauge of the positive cable. The larger the gauge the less resistance it will have as well as more current carrying capacity. As an example what was the size of the positive cable originally in your Vette?
    How is it increasing resistance? You use the solenoid to send the voltage down the battery cable to the starter during cranking only so the cable isn't hot the entire time. I was joking about saving money and weight.

    Although, this is a good safety feature irregardless.

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