Welcome to Club Hot Rod!  The premier site for everything to do with Hot Rod, Customs, Low Riders, Rat Rods, and more. 

  •  » Members from all over the US and the world!
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and hundreds of thousands of posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

 
Like Tree323Likes

Thread: Low-budget/T-Bucket Pickup
          
   
   

Reply To Thread
Page 20 of 20 FirstFirst ... 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
Results 286 to 292 of 292
  1. #286
    NTFDAY's Avatar
    NTFDAY is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Springfield
    Car Year, Make, Model: '66 Mustang, 76 Corvette
    Posts
    4,651

    Any component added to a circuit adds to the resistance of that circuit. Adding a Ford solenoid in series with a Chevrolet solenoid, except for a safety feature, is a band aid at best. If the engineers at GM thought that by adding a Ford solenoid in series with a GM starter and solenoid would work better I'm sure they would have done so years ago. There are a number of possible causes if the engine won't start, starter won't spin, and they are:
    1 Bad or loose grounds
    2 Corroded cable(s)
    3 Too small gauge wire running from the battery to the solenoid
    4 Badly worn brushes in the starter
    5 Arced contact in the solenoid
    I have encountered all 5 of those things in my almost 60 years of messing with cars and trucks.
    Mike P likes this.
    Ken Thomas
    NoT FaDe AwaY and the music didn't die
    The simplest road is usually the last one sought
    Wild Willie & AA/FA's The greatest show in drag racing

  2. #287
    Mike P's Avatar
    Mike P is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    SW Arizona
    Car Year, Make, Model: 57 Plymouth, 37 Dodge PU, 83 El Camino
    Posts
    3,330

    Just my 2 cents on the solenoid discussion.

    “…..If the engineers at GM thought that by adding a Ford solenoid in series with a GM starter and solenoid would work better I'm sure they would have done so years ago……”

    Ken as I recall at one time GM did sell remote solenoid kits for hot start issues over the parts counter……of course that was at least 20 years ago.

    I run a Ford solenoid on a lot of the stuff I build especially GMs. The experience I’ve had with heat soak issues on GMs (especially Chevrolets from the 50s-70s) is that when it heat soaks you can still short across the battery lead and solenoid terminals at the starter and it will crank. This has always lead me to the belief that while a heat soaked solenoid (higher resistance to activate) is partially the problem the main issue is higher resistance in the wire that activates the solenoid.

    I’ve tried running a heavier solenoid activation wire to the starter on a few occasions and only had mixed results. Using the remote solenoid has always eliminated any heat soak non-crank issues I’ve run into. When I wire the Ford style solenoid I run a busbar/heavy jumper wire between the Solenoid terminal and battery terminal on the starter and relocate the solenoid wire/charging wires and battery cable to the Ford solenoid. Basically when the remote solenoid is activated the solenoid on the starter will receive full voltage/amperage thru the busbar/jumper wire.

    Of course there are a few other benefits. It makes a convenient place to hook up a remote starter switch when you need to crank the engine over, it eliminates having a live battery cable running down by the exhaust and you only have the battery cable to remove when you need to remove the starter.

    Anyway like I said just my 2 cents.



    .
    I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....

  3. #288
    DennyW is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    outahere
    Posts
    1,065

    Just my 2 cents on the solenoid discussion.

    “…..If the engineers at GM thought that by adding a Ford solenoid in series with a GM starter and solenoid would work better I'm sure they would have done so years ago……”

    Here's mine...

    I know I sure have changed an awful lot of GM starters compared to just a few Ford's. Matter a fact, if it wasn't for GM, I wouldn't have much business in my shop I had.
    Mike P likes this.

  4. #289
    Mike P's Avatar
    Mike P is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    SW Arizona
    Car Year, Make, Model: 57 Plymouth, 37 Dodge PU, 83 El Camino
    Posts
    3,330

    " .........if it wasn't for GM, I wouldn't have much business in my shop I had......."



    Come to think of it


    Before Subaru came out with their Outback commercial Chevy trucks had one that used the same basic closing line...... something along the lines of:

    "90% of Chevrolet trucks sold in the last decade are still on the road"

    I had a friend who would grin every time that commercial came on........until one day when I said "well at least 10% were able to make it home"




    .
    NTFDAY, DennyW, johnboy and 2 others like this.
    I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....

  5. #290
    DennyW is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    outahere
    Posts
    1,065

    Exactly... True though. I don't dislike Chevy's, but, when I went on a trip, I drove my Ford...

  6. #291
    Driver50x's Avatar
    Driver50x is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    Saint Petersburg, Florida
    Posts
    274

    Quote Originally Posted by DennyW View Post

    I know I sure have changed an awful lot of GM starters compared to just a few Ford's. Matter a fact, if it wasn't for GM, I wouldn't have much business in my shop I had.
    I don’t know, I worked in an independent garage for a few years, and I remember Ford Escorts coming in on the wrecker nearly every day. 99% of the time they had either a broken timing belt or a bad ignition module. The worst part I remember about GM’s was constantly changing starters on Chevettes. What a miserable job. I haven’t touched a Chevette in about 20 years, and I hope I never see another one. lol

    On the Ford solenoid thing, I “think” Mike P is on the right track. I think at least part of the problem was too much voltage drop along the ignition switch and the small starter wire. Chevy engineers did a lot of things right, but mounting the solenoid on the starter, and near the exhaust, was not one of their better ideas. Making valve covers with only four bolts in them was also not a brilliant idea.
    Mike P and DennyW like this.
    Steve

  7. #292
    53 Chevy5's Avatar
    53 Chevy5 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Doon, Ia
    Car Year, Make, Model: 53 Chevy 3100
    Posts
    1,930

    I grew up die hard Chevy, then I tried Fords which have never disappointed me. Now I have 2 Dodges, a Chevy, a Ford and a Hyundai on the yard. For reliability, all brands have treated me pretty well. For non critical parts falling off around me, GM takes first prize in that category.
    Mike P and DennyW like this.
    Seth

    God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there. There is no such thing. C.S.Lewis

Reply To Thread
Page 20 of 20 FirstFirst ... 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Links monetized by VigLink