Does the "helper" make a good wheel chock?? **):whacked::LOL::LOL:
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Does the "helper" make a good wheel chock?? **):whacked::LOL::LOL:
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In 2 of these you can see the fixture I wrote about made out of some channel iron with a center section reversed so a block can lay on top of it locating the crank centerline at the top of frame rails
also ,maybe, you can make out in the first pic toward the rear end that I had made a tube that was the length midliength of shock travel length(ride ht) for the rear end so chassis sat at ride ht as I worked on/mocked stuff up
If you go to my photo gallery here and with it set for 12 pics per page (49-60) on page 5 you can see some of the build on this 32 5 window
Let's try this .. hope you don't mind!
thanks 34----------I have emailed RS about 60 some pics of the buid and hes going to see what he can do about getting them up---
And a great big thanks to Roger for helping me out all the time-----
Jerry,
I think the one that's most applicable is the neat jig you made to set the bare block on, shown in your last group but it's pretty grainy. The jig, made of three pieces of angle, is shown in place across the frame in front of the pipe clamp. The block, minus the crank, would sit on the center section at top-of-frame. Neat!
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Thanks Roger
And you can see plainly the 2 tubing pieces I used on the rear suspension to similate ride height at mid point of the coil overs I used. also visable is the motor mounts are installed and hanging just behind where my block fixture is laying in the photo.
Hey thanks for the inputs guys, all very helpful. I hope to have an engine with a crank and harmonic balancer soon so I can check all clearances from the front cross member and from the radiator back and get this moving along again.
Thanks again !!
My dog Pretzel likes to help too, but his measuring skills are off, heck that's why I had to move my engine forward a inch, last year! :)
Pretzel maybe a little twisted :eek: don't trust him :LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
I would suggest that you make a fixture like my channel iron piece and use a mockup block without a crank in it so as you position the engine it keeps the crank c/l at top frame level and level side to side--------its easy to measure and slide sideways for centering the crank or for any amount of offset--
Put the engine pretty much as far reaware as you can depending on distributor clearance and bell housing to firewall----------------that will give you the most room for accessories on front altho there may be some allowances you'll have to make depending on where you mount alternator and a/c.
3rd attempt at posting tonight, can't seem to hit the right button !
Jerry: I made a fixture like yours but it seems to hold the engine high and would cause me to have a big tranny tunnel through my cab. Is there any thing wrong with having the center line of the crank lower than the top of the frame rail ? pictures shows 2 inches of clearance.
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Sorry about that Navy---just been looking at the frame specs at Wescottsauto.com and see that the 1940 stuff has quite a rise to the front frame rails that ain't there on te earlyer ones----it will need some adjustment for that differance -----------------
I also have a 9 inch ford rear end with a 2 3/4 tube thru the pinion support that then fits in the mains of a BBC for perfect set up og drive shaFT ANGLES----but it works best for race cars with a centerline mounted pinion as most of the street cars have some offset-------------
Off subject---is that Selma alabama?????????????????????? was down there in 60s for the march when I was in 7th Cav---------
Well here's the latest completed work on the 40. Cross members and engine mounts. I'm not really happy with the last to cross bars that I put in between the left and right side. Their off center to match the drive shaft and it looks like $hi&. I started making a drive shaft loop and was going to use it but in the name of strength I though 2 bars with bends were better. I'm hoping after the bed is on I'll forget what it looks like. I'm wondering if I should put some upright pieces in to complete a loop of sorts ?
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Today is a rotten day, my 327 has a cracked block ! So now I'm going with a 283 which has bee bored out .030 over. Wanting to use the heads from the 327 because I have no other heads and it forces me to buy new pistons. The ones I have for the 283 are high compression and won't clear the heads.:mad: If things keep going south I might have to buy a 350 crate engine:(. Worked on the front end to set the ride height. I weighted all parts of the front and than started stacking steel on on top of the block till i had the same amt. Ended up cutting off 3/4 of a coil from the spring to obtain what I think is the the right ride height. Before the spring cut off, the upper control arms where hitting the springs even with the weight they were pushing down so hard, also it wouldn't allow me to adjust the camber/caster to get the front wheels straight up and down, they leaned out at the top bad. Your 2 cents is always welcome. Here's a picture.
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Hey Navy, sorry to hear about your 327! Maybe it's a sign for you to consider putting a Ford in that Ford!:3dSMILE:;):LOL:
Just curious how much you cut off your springs. Do you have stock spindles or dropped ones?
Yeah Randy, that '40 is probably just revolting a bit, not wanting to be wearing a bow tie in it's golden years!!;):LOL:;)
Navy, what do you mean byThe pumpkin is off center, but the engine & tranny will sit straight, aligned on the chassis centerline, and the drive shaft will angle from the tail shaft to the differential, sloped so that the down tilt of the tailshaft is equal and opposite from the up tilt of the differential yoke, right?Quote:
....last to cross bars that I put in between the left and right side. Their off center to match the drive shaft and it looks like $hi&.
Why won't the 283 pistons clear the heads??????????//
I think you need to re arrange how you are setting up the chassis for ride height---instead of weighing and trying to simulate the loaded ht, decide where you want it to set and made up some tubular pieces for that length of the shocks at ride ht and install them for the construction phase---then when done, weight the vehicle and choose springs to match for tha wt and ht---------
and is it an early or late 327??? a later 350 block will work you just need a main bearing spacer if the crank is an early small bearing size
Pistons won't clear the heads /valves because their an after market high compression type, big dome.
Today I basically did what your saying a little backwards. I did remove the springs and use pipe to set the ride height to the same as I had it after the springs were cut.
Block is a 1962, small journal.
The pistons should clear the heads unless the heads have been maybe angle milled---------or, possibly(seen it several times) they are installed backwards??????????
You can use your 327 stuff in a 350 block but you'll need to get a set of spacer main bearings------
Hey Navy, I really like how you did your new X Member of your frame. I think I just figured out how I want to do my 40's. Thanks. :LOL:
I haven't seen why they won't work with my own eyes:eek:, going by what my engine builder told me. This motor as with the 327 came in a box completely apart. Heads have been milled/cut at least once. I'll have to look into it further and see what and the why's of it. I think its valve clearance issue vice the actual head itself. I wish I had the confidence to build it my self but its been 30 yrs since my last engine build.
I started by looking at pictures of frames on the internet. Then bought some tube .100" wall and started bending. Thats the short of it. Of course it wasn't exactly the easy. Getting the end product to come out the same length and radius took some work and a little cut and splice. The splices were to get match length and done with sleeves inside with holes drilled in outer tube than welded and of course welded around the seam. The depth of the tubes inboard of the frame rails was determined by the power booster for the brakes that is mounted between the rail and the tube frame work. The rest all came from the pictures that I saw on the net. I did make a wood template from plywood to use to help get the radius and lengths right. Length can be gotten right the first time if your not in a rush and think it through. I can give you more info on the lay-out pre-bending if you like.
Looks like you'll be ok---putting those power brake boosters down there sure eats up room for left side exhaust
Altho it might not work on yours with the leaf springs----but a car with coil overs on the rear can use a setup for a late 90s up to 2004 Mustang for mufflers and tail pipes--takes a little shortening where the tip is but they line up under the frame rail beside the fuel tank(33-34 type fords)
Project seems to be coming along nicely
Jerry: Your right about that left side exhaust it's going to take some plumbing.
Today I made a bracket to hold the yoke the supports the front fenders. Its 1/4 thick 7" wide and tapers down to 5" at the radius, 8" hanging forward of the cross member. To my surprise it has flex in it and I may need to put gussets under it. Trying to get all things welded to the frame before I sandblast and paint it, I hate burning good paint. Today's pic's, input welcome.
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Looks really nice! I might use square tubing when I do mine. I won't have all the clearance you have due to how far my engine sets back, and how wide my trans is. I'd like to sneal power brakes in there, but like Jerry said, the exhaust will be tight through there. We shall see when I get back on it. :LOL:
Just some pic's as I assemble and disassemble to make sure things are fitting. Next I'm going to hang all the front sheet metal and check the tire clearance and fender fit to the cab etc. Reason is that I want to be sure that the cab blocks are the right height
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Nice to see the progress. It's looking good.
Looking good. I'd like to get back on mine soon.
Just for anybody's info this is where I got my frame work idea's from. Couldn't afford the factory made ones and its more fun to make your own { IMHO }.
Frame Chassis Tube Crossmembers Chevy Ford Plymouth willys | Progressive Automotive
Thanks for the link, and by the way, I really like your shop space!
I know that feeling. I used to rent a shop 30 miles away from my house, but it was on my way to work. :LOL: It was a concrete building with a flat roof. Talk about worst for all seasons. Haha
sweet local ride of about the same vintage i think ...
Hoss429 thanks for posting the pic, its the same year and every picture I see helps me build mine. Its nice to see how others have put things together. Thanks