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That'll work great!!!! Good job Falcon!!!!! you're really getting that patching stuff dialed in, looks great!!!!!
Here's some more; I saved some pieces from the sedan for patching. The drivers side rear really came in handy but the other side is too thin to use. I got one side finished and a start on the other. I had to stop and fix my MIG, it kept spitting and wouldn't lay down a smooth bead. I put on a new ground clamp, cleaned and retigtened all the connections and it made a huge difference. That's probably it for this weekend, maybe some more next week. It get's really busy for us this time of year.
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And here's the start of the other side.
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Originally Posted by Dave Severson
I've been having some welder issues but I think I've got it fixed. It's a learning experience, for sure! The tail is probably the worst of the body repairs so it'll feel good to wrap this part up.
Great work there Falcon . Enjoy this alot more then TV . Yep the Holidays are among us and we will be very busy getting through them .
Falcon looking deep into the metal i seen something at work i know would have worked . Working at a stamping plant i look for different shapes that will work in metal repair . I am in the basement looking at the scrap conveyor running and ask people what do they see . They always say scrap I tell them no its vintage auto replacement parts going to be melted back down . :3dSMILE:
That's the one drawback I've found about the old Mopars vs Fords & Chevy's; there are very few resources for replacement sheetmetal. There's a guy called the Plymouth Doctor but he's pretty slow about getting back to you. Other than that its pretty much build it yourself or find a good donor. You ought to pull some of that stuff off the conveyor and Ebay it; you could probably make a small fortune!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestang67
I usually work on such oddball stuff, kind of given up on finding a source for patch panels and such and just make most of my own... Amazing what you can do with a piece of 20 ga., a shot bag, plastic mallet, couple pieces of round tubing for dies, and a couple body hammers!!!!!! Used to be a sheetmetal shop in town, they were a great source for cutoffs and weird shaped pieces....too bad they went belly up! Probably cuz they threw away too much stuff!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Before I started patching this I bought a Ron Covell video on sheet metal forming and watched it a few times. I was blown away by what he did with simple hand tools. He was building a replacement quarter panel and tailpiece for a 1930 something Auburn. About halfway throught the curved tailpeice he was building it was looking like he took a perfectly good piece of metal and beat it into oblivian but I'll be darned if it didnt turn out perfect in the end. Amazing stuff to watch and really satisfying to learn.
I like the metal shapers site also . They have some great tech there for metal work . These inner cowl and body mounts are gone on the 37 . I spent some time last night looking to rebuild them . I have found them for replacement but at $105 a piece I think I am going to try my hand at making . This is where your patch work has given me a I can do mind process. They will be hidden so perfect match won't be necessary Just some good solid support.
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That's the way I figure it; if you cant see it when the car is back together, go for fuctionality. That definately looks fixable with regular sheet metal. Sheetmetal is cheap right now, too. I bought a 4'x8' sheet of 20 gauge for $45 and a 4'x8' sheet of 16 gauge for $62. It'll take me a long time to use all that.
As much as I hated to spend the time on it, I really needed to get the parts car stripped, cut up and disposed of. I need the space and the end of Jan seems to be a prime time to sell Ebay parts. I guess people are starting to get their tax checks and look at getting their ride ready for spring. I went to Lowes to pick up a pack of sawzall blades, some grinding discs, and stared choppin'. Time to make some space and some $$$!
Have a buddy who runs a fab shop and does the same thing. Throws most of the useable stuff in the trash. I built 90% of the brackets, gussets, etc. for the T by scrounging through his trash.Quote:
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I'm like you; I cant throw anything away that I think I might use again. I've got a scrap barrel where I pitch all of little brackets, channel, rods, and just odd pieces. It come to the rescue more than once.
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Originally Posted by falconvan
Know what you mean, later these little pieces become gussets, mounting tabs, and lots of necessary little pieces.... beats the heck out of having to cut them out of a brand new piece, especially at today's metal prices....
That's the truth, Dave. I couldn't believe what Lowes wanted for a little piece of sheet metal!
OK, she's all cut up. I did save these parts for myself; HMMMMM.......I see some future potential here!;)
Here's what's left. How about this? FOR SALE: 1948 Dodge sedan. Restoration started, just needs reassembled!:LOL::LOL:
Hmmmm. I'm the last one to throw stuff away, but I think I'd just be saving that pile til the scrap price went back up!!!!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Falcon now that looks like a great beginning to a 2 seat roadster or custom . Even my imagination is running on the out come of this build . Suprised though you are pitching frame instead of cutting and modifying it . But in any case is this one stepping a head of the 48 or just for near future fun .
I though about saving the frame but it was really thin; if it does go any farther I'll probably build a 2x4 frame with a dropped straight axle. Worse case is that it'll be some good metal working practice. I'm back to patching on the coupe next weekend, just wanted to get this out of the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestang67
OK, back to patching. This side was a little more ate up but with a little patch from the sedan, it came out pretty decent. Almost done with the tail section; just have to build the reinforcement for the body mount cups, trial fit the decklid, and smooth out my welds.
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Nice work. My welding skills suck. It's a good thing angle grinders are cheap other wise I'd be SOL!:LOL:
Falcon every weekend just about you keep plugging away . Those little daylight holes are becoming less and less . I was thinking of asking Santa for a small sheet metal brake just to have about i think it will come in handy sometimes.
I've been swamped lately between work and trying to get some investment property I bought ready to rent so i haven't touched the old girl in a while. I did, however, make a tidy profit on the Chevette so I figure if you can't spend time, do the next best thing and spend money. I've wanted to try the Edelbrock carburated setup for the LS1 ever since it came out so i bit the bullit and bought one along with a 625 CFM Road demon. Also picked up the rest of the patch panels I need, a better grille (should be able to make 1 good one from 2 so so ones), The mounting kit for the Cavalier rack and pinion, along with a brake line kit, wiring harness and other misc. At least i'll be able to move forward when I get some time.
Falcon nice engine set up looks great . Yeah it is nice to have a stock pile for the project . You are so accomplished and busy but still keep cars in there good work .
Thanks, man. You do some pretty fine work yourself.
Nice to see another 48 making some progress! Wow you have been busy theres alot of great work in that build! keep us posted and good luck!
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Thanks Mr Fleetline, I'm looking forward to getting back on it. I love those monster meats on the back of your car; totally BA looking!
Here's a question; I just saved a pedal assembly along with the brake booster and master cylinder from a 96 Firebird we scrapped. I'm thinking of using it for the Plymouth but the Firebird had antilock brakes. Does anyone know if there would be a difference in the booster/mastercylinder for the antilock system that would cause problems with a standard front disk/rear drum setup?
I am not 100% sure on this but I dont think it matters because I know on newer trucks like S10's and full size Chevy trucks people bypass the ABS system all the time as if it weren't even there (because chevy's abs in their trucks are junk IMO).
Hopefully someone can chime in here with a answer because I am curious on it.
As for the fleetline above, that thing is nice. I hate looking at these cars because it reminds me of my 48 Chevy coupe that my dad recently gave to someone while I was out of town. :CRY: Rust free car with extra hoods, dashes, fenders, doors, trim, 79 Z28 front sub, etc. I get so angry every time I look at these cars.
Good luck on your car Falconvan. BTW, are you still on that plymouth site I told you about a while back ago? I haven't been on it in a long time and need to get my 46 Chrysler going.
Yeah, I still tune in there. Those guys know their early Mopar stuff. How's the 46 coming along? Your dad gave a car away without asking you first? That's a drag, what did he do that for?
Falcon I would believe the Mc and booster still work in normal fashion . They are just connected to a control system that will pulsate the brake system . Like FMX said they do get bypassed because of expense to repair .
My first car was a 48 Plymouth two door. It was 1959 and I was 16 and I paid $125 for it. I drove it for 4 weeks and got 3 speeding tickets. My mother sold it.
Sounds like mom was one tough cookie! How much did a speeding ticket cost in 1959?
I don't know the cost, mama paid it. Yeah she was a tough cookie; she taught school for 30 years and kept me in tow. She got me a job at Shorty Stevens Esso station when I was in the 7th grade. Shorty paid me $2.00 a day and I found out 25 years later mama was giving Shorty the money to pay me. Shorty was getting some free help (not much) and I was kept busy greasing cars, learning how work worked,:eek: and out of trouble.Quote:
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Sounds like a great mom; the world could use a few more of those right now.