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    Looks like you're doing a good job from here. I think I like how you're just picking a section and working on it, I think I'll have to do the same on my car. I'm a "try and do it all at once" kind of guy and it gets a little overwhelming sometimes.

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    Steve,
    Your truck is going to come out really nice. Patience and more patience, it seems like you have that. I think that is the main ingredient's to a build. I can't wait to see yours done.
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    Thanks Sean and Ken. It seems a slow go, but slowly I'm getting there. I've been acumulating parts for the engine, for the last 10 months, and every once in a while, get side tracked with other stuff it needs that I stumble across on Ebay. I really didn't want to sink any cash into anything other than the body/frame work, but the replacement set of glass for the whole truck at 157.00 on Ebay was too much temptation to avoid! Now I've got to clear some garage space for all the stuff coming in! I figure to get as much of the body stuff done as possible, before the engine gets here. Then it gets towed to an old mechanic/ dirt track racers shop, where he will weld in the new crossmembers and mount the engine at the right angle, and tow it back here. Then it's wiring time with the American Autowire kit I bought ages ago. Hopely late Fall early winter it will be running. Tons of work between now and then!
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    Good guide coat smoke some black on it and block it with 180 on a long board . You'll work it smooth like sgo said it sure looks good already .

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    Thanks Bobby. I just got back from a week off. I went up to Lake Tahoe with two old highschool buddies. We all used to backpack in High School, so now it's fun for our annual get togethers to go some place where we can hike fish and bike. The altitude up there was a killer. Tomorrow it's back to the truck. Hopefully by the end of the month the engine will be on order! I figure to block sand all day tomorrow. then hit it with a finish coat of epoxy primer. The weather has warmed up, just when I figured Fall had hit, it's back in the 90's and beautiful.
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    Well after months of thinking, talking and researching........I bought my rebuilt engine (longblock)today. The company making it is in Spokane Wa.(S&S). They have a pretty good reputation, use quality parts and are willing to build it to my specs. When I first spoke to them they were willing to warrant it for 70K or 7 years. After building a bunch of 460's over the summer with DOVE-C heads, they won't warrant predetonation because of the high compression ratios and I guess, a bunch of boaters who were blowing their engines this summer. As a compromise, we built it with 1143 hc pistons which should lower the compression ratio to 9.5-10.0:1 which is a little less than the 10.5 :1 ratio stock. E-967-P Elgin cam ,Cloys 9-1122 Timing,
    Melling High volume oil pump
    This engine will be built using DOVE heads with Silvolite 1143HC Pistons. Over-all, a pretty mild build with my edelbrock stuff going on it, and weiand aluminum water pump. I have a mechanical advance Mallory unilite dist(Comp 9000) but have heard from a few of you to maybe go with a vacuum adv. distributor. Any recogmendations? I have heard good stuff about MSD, but would appreciate feedback from you Ford guys.

    ETA 1 and 1/2 weeks for the motor to get here.

    Shipping with a liftgate was only $175.00.
    I spec'd out the same rebuild locally for same parts, valve 3 angle, etc... and the closest offer came in at 1500.00 more than what these guys are quoting. Waranties were not as good either.
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    Got a call today that the 460 longblock will arive tomorrow. Also have a few parts off the old truck that will be going freight shipping to clear some space. Any one know of any freight companies to ship a transaxle thru?
    Anyway, I am excited to get going with the new stuff. Also picked up a transmission pan with cooling channels through it, which should help while going down the road. All that is left is to buy the harmonic balancer and headers. My wife has been eyeing the parts list and shaking her head! Always a bad sign!
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    Woo hoo! Got the long block today. It came well crated with break in instructions and gasket kits. They did a really nice paint job as well. It was a bit tough wrestling it onto the engine stand by myself, but it went o.k. with the help of the load leveler. I did have to set it down and then increase the boom length to get it close enough to the engine stand. I had a talk with the chief financial officer, and bought the rest of the pieces needed to complete assembly including harmonic balancer, new valve bolts and balancer bolt, and vents for valve covers. Expensive but fun! I'll post some shots tomorrow when it start the assembly.
    Oe funny thing is a valley pan came in the kit to mount under the intake manifold, but I thought they weren't used on the earlier blocks, this one is a 1971 lincoln 460, with DOVE-C heads. I was going to post this as a question, but since they sent it I guess it is o.k. to use it.
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    Congratulations, how exciting. More pictures!!
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    Just playing around with my dyno software, I have found that the manifold of choice is Edelbrock Performer RPM. Don't know if you've bought the intake yet, just wanted to throw in a heads-up.

    Elgin E967P.....0.484" intake valve lift.....0.510" exhaust valve lift..... 270*/280* @ 0.006" tappet lift.....204*/214* @ 0.050" tappet lift..... Hydraulic..... 107* intake centerline.....117* exhaust centerline.....112* lobe separation angle..... Intake opens 28* BTDC, closes 62* ABDC, Exhaust opens 77* BBDC, closes 23* ATDC.

    Nice, slow ramps. This cam is cut like the old-time cams from my youth, with easy valve action. 112 LSA should give good manifold vacuum.
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    I had them put an Elgin prostock e-967-p cam in. it has .486 int lift, .512 exh lift, lobe ctrs int 107, exh 117, .050 dur 204 int 214 exh. The elgin site discribes it as "Fair idle, Good low end torque and response"
    It seems to be a good cam for a mild built with some get up and go. I was going for the Edelbrock performer cam to match but they thought I would be happier with this one. I have a regular performer intake and a 1407 (750cfm) edelbrock carb that are going on top. Not sure what this will dyno to, it will have Sanderson headers as well, and the unilite ignition.
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    Today was spent getting a pallet for a transaxle to ship to a guy in Wa. state(pain in the b* only to have Fed Freight refuse to deal with it because it wasn't crated. Tech and NTFDAY and lots of others helped with assembly info so I'm waiting for the final parts, and bolts to arrive before assembly. I couldn't resist throwing some parts on the engine to mock up what it'll look like. so here you go...

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    Very nice, that's going to look great in your truck.
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    Been awhile getting this done. It's funny I think because it cost so much for the engine and all the parts that I was a bit intimidated by it, instead of diving in. Well Yesterday and today I got the front cover, water pump, oil pan, intake manifold on, and valve covers. I wish I still had the old engine as a reference to all the water passages, sensors and vacuum lines. But here we are and other than the goose neck and the distributor just on to plug holes, every thing else is perminently on. It feels good to be partly assembling the engine, even though I bought the long block rebuilt. here are a few pictures of it and one of the new dog Tiva who was sniffing about. I'm laughing at the extra Blue silicone all over the cover. I figured I wanted to make sure it sealed. I would especially like to thank everybody who helped me get this together.


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    Looks great Steve, and I think Muttley is pleased with it too.... Don't remember what all you did on the heads, but I guess my experience with the BBF's in streetable trim has led me to prefer the Performer RPM over the Performer.--- But then my definition of "streetable" seems to be a bit different then most. Compared with stock, you should be well pleased with the whole setup I would say.
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