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    Yes we have. I measured one at Good Guy's in Des moines this year, and I don't think it's wide enough to get the 46rh through it either. That's an expensive piece to have to modify if you know what I mean.
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    1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    Yes we have. I measured one at Good Guy's in Des moines this year, and I don't think it's wide enough to get the 46rh through it either. That's an expensive piece to have to modify if you know what I mean.
    I hear ya! These guys have one, too. It's wider than stock but don't know if it's wide enough for you. page 60
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    No, there's isn't wide enough either. I originally was going to use theirs. My plan is to build an X member similar to what Fatman does on their chassis.
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    1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Today I ordered some parts for the Hemi. I'd like to get the 40 in my shop this weekend and get going on it. We'll see how that plan unfolds..........

    Carb Adapter
    Intermediate shaft
    Small Block Chrysler Billet Electronic Dist.
    Oil filter relocating plate
    Oil filter mounting bracket
    Oil byplass plug
    Rear main seal
    Timing cover seal and gasket
    Spark Plug Rubber seals

    I need to get my water pump on and see what I need to do about a dampner and pullies. Then figure out PS pump, and alt situation.
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    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
    1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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    Just curious why you're not going to run the fuel injection....
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyr View Post
    Just curious why you're not going to run the fuel injection....
    What fuel injection? It's a 1956 354 Hemi. I suppose I could run fuel injection, but it's big bucks. Haha
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    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    What fuel injection? It's a 1956 354 Hemi. I suppoe I could run fuel injection, but it's big bucks. Haha

    Oops!! My bad! Maybe I need to review your thread. For some reason I was thinking you had scored a late-model Hemi engine/trans to put in your '40.
    Nevermind.......carry on with what you're doing.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyr View Post
    Oops!! My bad! Maybe I need to review your thread. For some reason I was thinking you had scored a late-model Hemi engine/trans to put in your '40.
    Nevermind.......carry on with what you're doing.....
    No biggie. Nah, if I were to go with an electronic engine, I'd have to go with a LS or similar engine. They are the new SBC's and you can make big power with a mild turbo and stock bottom end.
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    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Today I said to heck with it and dug out the Hemi. I started removing the pieces I don't need, and started cleaning gunk and grime off the engine. I also put my BBC water pump on to see how it was, or if it was going to fit. Yep, it fits! I have no gaskets in there now, so it's tight against the timing cover. Worst case, I'll have to clearance the 2 lower bolt heads on the pump cover. I'm waiting for my parts from Hot Heads, but until then I'll keep cleaning this thing. I have to get a balancer and find my lower pulley so I can determine what I need to do for an upper pulley. This weekend I'm going to start putting the engine in the car. But first, I have to do my fire wall.





    I'm going to cut the old water pump to get the upper cross over off. Then I'll braze a plate on it. Later on down the road I'd like the aluminum one Hot Heads sells, but for now this will have to work. I'm going to try selling the stock pieces I removed from the engine to help fund more parts. I also forgot I had this new air cleaner. I might run it for now until I get it running, then buy one of the vintage units.
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    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Today I pushed the car out of it's storage spot, and washed it. It badly needed it. I need to go on a bird killing spree........................ Now it's in the shop and I'm going to get started on it in the morning. My new distributor showed up today. The big brake kit is MIA though.....


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    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Thanks for the update. I see the air filter for that tall oval element we talked about in the other thread.

    Seeing your motor reminds me "how come I don't have a hemi?" I grew up thinking I'd put a hemi in everything and that still sounds like a great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Rod Nick View Post
    Thanks for the update. I see the air filter for that tall oval element we talked about in the other thread.

    Seeing your motor reminds me "how come I don't have a hemi?" I grew up thinking I'd put a hemi in everything and that still sounds like a great idea.
    Yep, I found it the other day and I'll use it for now. That filter you found should work great too. I agree with you. I've always wanted a Hemi from the first time my friend and Dad found 30 in a local abandoned junk yard. Too bad the state crushed every last thing in there!
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    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    From the looks of those front tires, I'd say you've been 4-wheelin' in that thing!!

    Are you planning to lift the body off for your x-member modifications?
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyr View Post
    From the looks of those front tires, I'd say you've been 4-wheelin' in that thing!!

    Are you planning to lift the body off for your x-member modifications?
    Yep, pretty much! I had to push and drag it through some muddy holes to get it from one barn to the drive way, and back to our shop. This springter has allowed the ground to be very soft, and all the gravel has sunk and made a mud mess. dang the luck.....

    Yes, I do plan on taking the body off the frame. First I'd like to get the engine placed where I want it, then see what all needs redone to get the trans in there. I know that will be the worst part. With the body off I'll be able to brace the frame to minimize movement when I cut the X member up. Well, I'm sure mine has already moved and sagged. So, hopefully I can get some of that back.

    I also found a decent set up for a gas door I'm going to try. I never knew 41-48 fords had gas doors.... So I'm getting one from a local rodder and will add this to the car some time.
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    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Today I removed all the stock suspension parts and began the install of the tubular control arms. I did not have any luck sourcing a drill bit the size of the outer diameter of the spacer. So, I found a hole saw that was the same size. I cleaned the inside of the cross member, ground it, and tacked a 1/4" piece of scrap in there. Drilled a hole in the center, and then used the hole saw to cut the hole in my cross member to get the spacer in it. Once that was done, I had to enlarge the front bolt hole to 5/8". Then I slid the spacer in, and put the lower control arm on. I have to trim the spacer to allow the inner washers to be used. Right now it's too tight to get the control arm on and the washers. I'm guessing who ever designed these wants you to drill both holes to the outer dia of the spacer. But I'm using the front as a locating device. I have to check my caster and camber before I weld it up. I have a lot of clean up to do to this cross member. Hopefully I can get some stuff done over the weekend. But as usual, it's getting busy. I have to go to my Grandmother's birthday party tomorrow afternoon, and church and Easter/more b-day celebrations Sunday. I doubt I get much done.......







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    1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
    1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
    1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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