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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    Somebody email me when this thread dies.... Now that it's gone from attacking the message to attacking the messenger it's killing the site. How many more people do we want to see leave or just quit posting on CHR because of the absurdity of some of the posts on this thread??? I'm outa here.
    Sigh........This is the type of post we were afraid of when we left this thread open. People are passionate about their political views, eventually noses get bent out of joint.......

    We will call this strike two for the thread. Strike three and it gets locked down without another chance for a political thread to ever show it's face on CHR ever again.


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    To make sure you understand " They must think" was directed at the government not members, however reading it I can see how you could got that impression.
    I have two brains, one is lost and the other is out looking for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepi View Post
    To make sure you understand " They must think" was directed at the government not members, however reading it I can see how you could got that impression.
    Yes I took it the wrong way!! My apoligies!! Thanks for clearing that up!! Pete

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    Yeah it was pointed at the media and the constant story line changes coming out of DC. I understand why it had upset folks the way I worded it, car guy fuba...
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    Subject: Read and weep...PLEASE PASS ON



    This should be on the front page of every newspaper.

    A very interesting column.. COMPLETELY NEUTRAL
    Be sure to Read the Poem at the end.

    Charley Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel...
    He has been a journalist for 49 years.
    He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

    Be sure to read the Tax List at the end.

    This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral,
    neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel,
    has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis
    must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day.
    It's a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

    545 vs. 300,000,000 People
    -By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

    You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

    If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish;
    to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators,
    to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.
    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like
    "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from
    doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

    What you do with this article now that you have read it... is up to you.
    This might be funny if it weren't so true.
    Be sure to read all the way to the end:

    Tax his land,
    Tax his bed,
    Tax the table,
    At which he's fed.

    Tax his tractor,
    Tax his mule,
    Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work,
    Tax his pay,
    He works for
    peanuts anyway!

    Tax his cow,
    Tax his goat,
    Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.

    Tax his ties,
    Tax his shirt,
    Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco,
    Tax his drink,
    Tax him if he
    Tries to think.

    Tax his cigars,
    Tax his beers,
    If he cries
    Tax his tears.

    Tax his car,
    Tax his gas,
    Find other ways
    To tax his ass.

    Tax all he has
    Then let him know
    That you won't be done
    Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers;
    Then tax him some more,
    Tax him till
    He's good and sore.

    Then tax his coffin,
    Tax his grave,
    Tax the sod in
    Which he's laid...

    Put these words
    Upon his tomb,
    'Taxes drove me
    to my doom...'

    When he's gone,
    Do not relax,
    Its time to apply
    The inheritance tax.

    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Sales Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax


    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
    We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    What in the heck happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

    I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!

    GO AHEAD. . . BE AN AMERICAN!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
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    That GIANT suckin' sound......
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    Lots of commentary and spin today about last night's debate, that actually resembled a real debate for a change. Not going to try to add to the scoring sheets that are everywhere. But one question does come to mind: I wonder how Jim Lehrer feels about being the latest in a long line of scape goats.....................
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    Interesting how the major media is saying the potus won the debate, and the internet says he may have lost the election.
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    i have said all along that what is important is jobs. obama thinks he can tax us out of this. romney knows that expanding the tax base will bring in more revenue . i absolutely loved the debate . it showed a candidate with a plan and a president without a clue. get federal government to hell out of the states business. same thing perry has told washington for 4 years.

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    Whats real interesting is Donald Trump is small business. Makes me feel kinda smaller
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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    i have said all along that what is important is jobs. obama thinks he can tax us out of this. romney knows that expanding the tax base will bring in more revenue . i absolutely loved the debate . it showed a candidate with a plan and a president without a clue. get federal government to hell out of the states business. same thing perry has told washington for 4 years.
    We've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating a very appropriate quote:
    We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
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    got lucky filled up the gas tank yesterday at cosco 4.07 per today it jumped to 4.26 not bad .19 in one day news reports the price in no. cal. at 5.89 WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY WE LIVE IN .....ted
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    Mr. Romney handed Mr. Obama his head last night. Try as I might, I could see nothing from the President that encouraged me he had anything new. I enjoyed the debate – especially the times when Mr. Romney said something profound and Mr. Obama got that “I’ve really got gas…” look on his face and he had absolutely no comeback. For those who claim Mr. Romney has no plan they should have listened last night – he appeared to be poised, he was articulate and transparent. Mr. Obama appeared nervous, he stuttered and stammered, and continued to use the same rhetoric he’s been pushing for four years. To re-elect him would be akin to re-sailing the Titanic, ramming the iceberg at full speed ahead and expecting different results.

    My two cents...
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    some on the left are saying obama had a bad day some say he did good ??? the way i seen it MR Romney handed him his ass . they say the next debate there will be a New Obama ?? boy i am not sure about that . Romney was holding back the way i seen it . obama should call in sick for the next debate and have the empty chair fill in for him
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