I used to work first and I never got sleep. I'd always stay up too long working on stuff and get to bed too late. Then at 5am it was a fight to stay up. My youngest brother is on first now and trying to get off it. It seems once they put you there, they never want to move you because they rarely find anyone who will work those hours. I've been on 2nd for almost 12 years at this job. I won't get to days until the other guy retires. And if someone bids in with more seniority, I'm stuck on 2nd. Roger, you're right. We have no over night help. But day shift does start at 4am and goes until 12:30.