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    Peace,

    i know it is toxic but in paint i dont plan on anyone eating it! i will not use lead gas i will use additive but paint should be ok to use. : because i dont want to redo the entire car to paint because i cant find lead paint. and that is lead paint and it is what my car was built with. unless there is a paint that isnt any different as far as color and durrability goes i will stick with lead based. i know lead is harmful to the enviornment but paint cant be that bad. and it lasts long time!

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    Originally posted by Hot Rod 57 hips
    Peace,

    i know it is toxic but in paint i dont plan on anyone eating it! i will not use lead gas i will use additive but paint should be ok to use. : because i dont want to redo the entire car to paint because i cant find lead paint. and that is lead paint and it is what my car was built with. unless there is a paint that isnt any different as far as color and durrability goes i will stick with lead based. i know lead is harmful to the enviornment but paint cant be that bad. and it lasts long time!

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    You should be able to find paint that matches your car at anyplace that sells auto paint. Also, it is probably more harmful to the enviroment in paint because of paint overspray.
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    red lead paint

     



    Dont kown about other states, but we use a paint called red lead. A gallon is about 30 pounds it is used to coat galv. and black iron pipe underground. PS its also good own helpers hardhats old lead head in fla.

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Streets
    [B]Lead is hazardous to human health and has been outlawed in gasoline since 1986 in the U.S.A. Lead based paint is responsible for many children's medical problems and DEATHS!!!



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    Yeah so?
    -Lessee...i burn garbage/paper..that pollutes
    -my tractor/weed whacker/push mower/outboard lack any emmissions euipment, and e-gads, two of them are 2 strokes!
    -=last week i put cast iron and old tires in a dumpster bound for a landfill...
    -my dog shits in teh yard and i don't pick it up
    -i sandblast with silica sand
    -i drive on roads with drunks
    -none of my 'classic' cars ahve ABS, air bags or crumple zones
    -i rarely use a seat belt
    -i eat pesticide laden, preservative filled and hormone and genetically modified foods
    -i kill weeds with used motor oil
    -i use herbicides to 'control' weeds (but not agent orange - like the new stuff is safer)
    -i use stuff to kill bugs (but not DDT - like the new stuff is safer)

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by screamer63_1979
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    A little lead is good far ya - What don't kill ya makes ya stronger!
    Well I don't know about that, but I DO know that on more than 1 occasion in my youth I wuz' told ta' "get the lead out". So, I try to stay away from lead based products now.
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    So what's next on the to do list Hippy? Find some original Chevy oil that was canned in 1957? Antique Simonize paste wax?

    If you do find some lead based paint in the original color (don't hold your breath) it still won't be the original paint. If you change the color it will be just as original as repainting with the same color. It's illeagal to import lead based paint. It will never clear customs.
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    PEace,

    i couldnt help but laught at your reply!! bno. i just plan to RESTORE the car as original as posable. as far as oil and lead gas. i will stick to the BEST OIL MONEY CAN BUY. and lead additive. why are you thinking it is a joke that i want my 57 as original as can be? i am sorry but i dont take the easy way out. i never do it easy i always do it right! that way it SHOULD BE if i cant i will do the best alternitive posable! i am 16 years old and have 1 part time job mabe 2 soon and school! so that tells you now determined i am!

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    from now on be respectful or dont say anything at all!




    Originally posted by The Al Show
    So what's next on the to do list Hippy? Find some original Chevy oil that was canned in 1957? Antique Simonize paste wax?

    If you do find some lead based paint in the original color (don't hold your breath) it still won't be the original paint. If you change the color it will be just as original as repainting with the same color. It's illeagal to import lead based paint. It will never clear customs.
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    Originally posted by Hot Rod 57 hips
    PEace,

    i couldnt help but laught at your reply!! bno. i just plan to RESTORE the car as original as posable. as far as oil and lead gas. i will stick to the BEST OIL MONEY CAN BUY. and lead additive. why are you thinking it is a joke that i want my 57 as original as can be? i am sorry but i dont take the easy way out. i never do it easy i always do it right! that way it SHOULD BE if i cant i will do the best alternitive posable! i am 16 years old and have 1 part time job mabe 2 soon and school! so that tells you now determined i am!

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    from now on be respectful or dont say anything at all!
    The best thing you can do for your car is get a color that matches your car or in your case get the 2 colors for your 2 tone, and do the whole car instead of repainting bad sections. The best paint you can get for it ( for going original ) is good laquer paint or if you cannot get it in your state, you could smuggle it in from another state that sells it and don't get cought using it or smuggeling it in for that fact, trust me, I'm also 16 and also I have my '51 Chevy Fleetline 4dr and although I'm not compleatly restoring, but for the most part, the only thing not original is the Thrush glasspack I put in it but that's for now, in the near future I will paint it dark purple ( originally paint code : 402, meyland black ). Also, a concourse restoration's paint job is not lead based paint but just a really really good and expensive 1, I'm not saying your going for concourse resto but they are the restoration of restoration's so lead paint isn't really nessesary. Really my point is, by using lead based paint which you can't get into the states NE way isn't going to make your car any more original than a non lead based paint.
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    Chronic Low-Level Lead Exposure
    Chronic (long-term) overexposure to lead can irreversibly effect the blood forming, nervous, urinary and reproductive systems. Damage to these systems can be felt in many possible ways. Examples include: • Impaired language skills • Loss of hearing • Loss of appetite • Weight loss • Headache • Abdominal, muscle, or joint pain • Limp wrist • High blood pressure • Reproduction problems: miscarriages, infertility, retarded fetal development, low birth weight • Hypertension • Unusual tiredness • Irritability • Constipation • Kidney disease.

    Acute Lead Exposure
    Acute (short-term) exposure to high lead levels can lead to acute encephalopathy (brain disease) which may progress to seizure, coma, and death from cardiovascular arrest. Conditions that would elevate lead blood levels to 100 ΅g lead/dl blood and breathing an atmosphere contaminated with 100 mg lead/m3 are immediately dangerous to life and health.

    A very small amount of lead absorption can elicit immediate adverse health effects both in adults and children; however, the same amount of lead absorption in infants and children can be especially harmful to them because of their rapidly developing nervous systems.

    This is taken from a material data sheet on lead.

    Do you still think it's necessary to paint your car with lead based paint. Before you say the cool thing (yes) think about it first. Being 16 you probably think your invincible. So what if lead can kill you, it won't kill me right?

    Cool you ........ you'll have an original all-be-it REPAINTED 57 chevy someday. Only problem you'll be sterile, won't be able to put a sentence together, Won't be able to hear your 57 run, you'll have headaches, arthritis. Instead of drivin' your 57 you'll be occupied with seizures, slipping into a coma and dying. Hey ....... can I have yer 57 when yer' Gone????

    I wood' Drop a blown big block in that bad boy, Tub it/ Cage it/ and put a nice base coat/clear coat paint job on it.
    Last edited by pro70z28; 08-23-2004 at 05:52 PM.
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    Peace,

    cah anyone tell me how expensive laquer paint is? and what kind of bussiness in Nebraska may carry it? i am still learning about my sweet old betsy ( 57 )

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    You didn't have to tell me your age Hippy I already guessed that from your unusual Question. If you really want to do it right you wouldn't be looking for lead based paint.

    This is a hot rod website so we don't try to restore things to original condition. We build hot rods. We like to make them better than original. My point was that oil has improved a lot since 57 and so has paint. Use the best paint you can get. Forget about that old crap. Restorations are for old farts anyway

    As for respect you gotta earn it. A kid who doesn't listen to good advise when he's on the wrong track don't get no respect. If you can't learn from the people with years of experience then don't bother to ask questions. You already know the answers you want. The right answers will just go over your head.

    I don't know about Nebraska but I can get lacquer from the Napa store uptown. Try your local auto parts store.
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    Peace,

    well first yousure didnt earn my respect for keeping insulting me. and i dont care. so your saying only old people restore to original. very sterotype. you know alot about cars becasue you dont know much about life! now back to topic SHALL we?! now i care about my car. my car is a 57 not 04. it is a time machine to the year 1957 when it was built. nothing has really changed! i plan on it staying that way! i dont care how advanced it ahs gotten. lead seem so be hard to find & dangerous so i guss additive and lauqer paint sounds good! how expensive is it?

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    Originally posted by Hot Rod 57 hips
    you know alot about cars becasue you dont know much about life!
    YOUR SIXTEEN..................
    "PLAN" your life like you will live to 120.
    "LIVE" your life like you could die tomorrow.

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    Peace,

    scence when did you have to be a certain age to kow about life? please inspire me! i would love to know. BACK to subject. how much does it cost/ expensive or not?

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    Originally posted by Hot Rod 57 hips
    Peace,

    scence when did you have to be a certain age to kow about life? please inspire me! i would love to know.

    later
    The day yer' old enouigh to say .... "ooooh now I get it" .......then you will know the answer to your question.
    Until then you will just be content to THINK you have all the answers. It's not your fault, It's just 1 of those human nature things. I gotta laugh cuz' you DO remind me of myself 35 years ago.
    Edit: there were a couple differences tho. My first car wuz' a '56 Chevy ........ and original wuz' the last thing on my mind. He He He

    how much does it cost/ expensive or not?

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    [/QUOTE]

    I painted my Sons car about two years ago in laquer. Did some custom stuff that jacked the price some. Everything total was about 900 bux. Oh, I didn't mention we bought a windshield and a hood from a salvage yard included in that price.
    Last edited by pro70z28; 08-23-2004 at 07:21 PM.
    "PLAN" your life like you will live to 120.
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