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    can i get LEAD bsaed paint for my 57 Chevy?

     



    PEace,

    i ahe heard ye you still can other times i cant. i need to know. because my car still has the lead paint on it from the factory & need to find some authentic lead paint fo rher. any ideas to where i can get some? my car is painted classic white & golen brown.

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    No, I doubt it, I belive it was banned in the 80's. I would just try to get laquer paint in the colors you need besides, can you really tell the diffrence between lead paint and non lead paint by it's appearence?
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    No!!!!!! Lead was banned back in the 70. Children where eating it off their baby beds. Hardees came out with glasses that has lead paint and kids were licking the glasses. Laqure paint has been banded buy the gov. It donsn't meet goverment specs. It has to many chemicals in it. There is a 5.0 spec an it didn't meet the grade.

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    Originally posted by boyddawson
    No!!!!!! Lead was banned back in the 70. Children where eating it off their baby beds. Hardees came out with glasses that has lead paint and kids were licking the glasses. Laqure paint has been banded buy the gov. It donsn't meet goverment specs. It has to many chemicals in it. There is a 5.0 spec an it didn't meet the grade.
    I belive I can still get laquer paint in Ny, I think it's certine states like calli that it is illegal to sell or use, I could be wrong but, when I asked about Gloss black for my car and the cleark at Napa and he said it would be a laquer. I wasn't shure when lead paint was banned but I knew it was.
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    Originally posted by boyddawson
    Laqure paint has been banded buy the gov. It donsn't meet goverment specs.
    I still use laquer. I spray it thinned waaaay down as a top coat for large format digital prints on photo paper. It dries faster than water based products so the paper doesn't wrinkle and it dries faaast. The last 2 cars I painted i did in laquer. Still available @ the local auto parts store. Just wear a good fitting charcoal filter mask.
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    You can forget LEAD based paint....the closest you may get will be industrial grades enamels. Try NAPA.
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    Originally posted by hambiskit
    You can forget LEAD based paint....the closest you may get will be industrial grades enamels. Try NAPA.
    One Shot lettering enamel still uses a lead base. Don't think he'd wanna paint the entire car with lettering enamel tho. He HE hE
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    I know I've lived under a rock for the last 2+ decades but what automotive finishes had lead in em'? I don't recall laquer having lead. If it did, then that would explain my not remembering as I've sprayed more than a few gallons over the years. I thought lead was used in house paint, etc.
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    Yeah- the early enamels thru the 50's that I know of. It's some 16 kinds of hell to get off too. I sand blast it off, and if some idiot has put Por-15 on it I charge 'em double.
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    Not that I don't have a deep respect for how things were done back in the day, but why use 50 year old technology when new technology is safer, easier to use and looks just as good (if not better)?

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    Just a comment. I worked one six month stint as part of my Chemistry training at National Lead Co. (Dutch Boy Paint) in Phila. before lead was banned in paint. Workers used to come into my lab and drink coffee from the same beakers I used to run Pb tests and I tried to stay clean but by the end of the six months I had black feces just like the rest of the crew and I was glad to get out of there! The treatment is to inject solutions of EDTA directly into the blood stream to complex the lead and help excrete it but otherwise it accumulates in the nervous system. This is why tetraethylead was banned as an anti-knock agent in gasoline. Maybe that led (lead?) to the expression to "get the lead out" as a comment to slow thinkers? Maybe that is my problem, my problem, my problem? On the other comment, I don't recall that lacquers have any lead at all, in that case it is the VOCs that offend the feds (Volatile Organic Compounds, solvents). Still I suppose National Lead is still doing a good business because Pb3O4 (red lead) is a main ingredient in lead-acid batteries. Although the Pb/Pb3O4/PbSO4/H2SO4 battery is really a very nasty device and other lighter batteries such as lithium batteries have more intrinsic voltage, it is said that even if hybrid electric cars catch on they will still use lead acid batteries because even though they are heavy the technology to make them and recycle them is very well established. So I guess National Lead will have a good market for a long time and when the batteries are sealed as most are today, they are more environmentally clean than the old "add water" batteries.

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    The only paint I know of that still has lead in it is some marine paints. I bought some in oregon a few years back and it had a huge warning label on it saying so. I used it on the rims on my boats trailer and the paint still looks great, even exposed to the salt water when launching.
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    Really,
    I hadn't thought of that, I'll have to check that out. I do a lot of orignal resto's at the shop here & that's one they all ask for.
    Thanks Suede.
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    I have heard that trains are painted with lead paint, as are bridges. Don't know for sure, but i could go for some of that paint used on trains - new it is quite glossy, and sure does wear well!
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    Peace,

    diesel locomotives arent painted in lead paint. the cars are still painted in lead paint to help as an extra coat/shield to the elements. steam locomotives really arent painted just coated in certain things to make them last longer. why not iport lead paint? where can we still get it?

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