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    Don-I have been working on my red roadster so not much to post on the new car but I have been thinking a lot about it. My wife and I are going to take it on a little vacation next week. My grandson is going away to camp so we finally will have some time for us. My wife is really doing well, I think it will work out well this time, still a lot of pain but it is improving. Another week of therapy and I will throw her in the roadster and head up the coast.
    As for as the manifold goes, he thinks they are still trying things old Zora new in the '50's.

    Steve- actually got the plastic motor just for basic dimensions. The new truck will be stretched but the motor is so wide it won't fit. The widest point at the front of the valve covers is 30", so now I'm thinking about scaling it down. J. Robinsons information is valuable because it will be easier to shrink the over all dimensions if he is right, and I bet he is.

    J. Robinson- Thank you for your comments. I really appreciate the information from your friend. I really believe he is right. I still don't have a block, I bought one but the guy fest up it wasn't what I wanted. I'm looking for a 1942-46 complete engine. These engines were the largest of all of them at 305 cu. in. If you run across one please let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC
    Can't believe they had a plastic v-12, man are you lucky. No lifting that heavy block in & out.
    BradC
    I'm sorry to mislead you, it's a V8 with the Arden head conversion.
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    Ken, I'm really so happy to hear about her improving. You guys need some time away after what you both have been going through. It's amazing what some time alone and a nice candlelit dinner can do for a woman's morale. Have a nice trip.

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    Glad to hear she's doing well, just don't take her dancing....LOL Nice dinner and good bottle of wine.
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    Enjoy the get a way! Monique and I just got back from a three day Harley cruise on Hwy 20. Hwy 20 starts in the Sierra's and goes to the ocean in Fort Bragg. Nice ride! Enjoy yours and tell Tina we are all pulling for her!
    " "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.

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    Thank you, you guys
    We are going up the coast to a little beach town called Cambria. Then to Hearst Castle. The roadster is all done and running great, Tina reminded me, they all run their best right before they blow up. I have to get her on a more positive note! The problem is, she has experienced some of these problems with me. Thats what's wrong with being married to the same woman for a long time
    Steve, that sounds like a great trip, I bet that was fun.
    I'll take some pictures.
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    Ken, I just googled Cambria, man, what a scenic, great place that looks like. Tina is really going to enjoy that treat, I'm sure. Have fun!!!!!!

    http://www.cambriachamber.org/

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    The Hearst Castle sounds great, we were there in 87 but something happened that we didn’t go in either the wait was too long or something, or the 14-year-old girl wasn’t interested. She sure was interested in seeing Marilyn’s handprints at the Chinese Theater, I think that’s what it was called. Have a great time be careful pictures would be nice.

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    Ken, it's good to hear your wife is feeling better and is on the go. Hope you have a great, relaxing weekend. I saw a pic of your Stand-Up car trailer in the Window Shopper section of this months Street Rodder. It's one of the pics from the truck's photo shoot that you posted earler.

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    Well, all the plumbing is complete. I can't tell how how glad I am that is over. It's so time consuming and when you are all done you can't see anything. I thought I would show what was involved with the fuel line coolers and the plumbing inside the drivers frame rail.
    This is whats inside the frame rail, 2, 24" transmission coolers (now fuel coolers). I welded AN fittings on the inlets and outlets so I could use all AN fittings on everything. Then there had to be a window cut into the frame right at the kick up to slide everything inside. Then there had to be a window put into the back of the frame rail to mount the bulkhead fittings. The other photo is the bulk heads put into the floor to get the fuel lines to the outside. So the three fittings are the main feed line coming out of the tank then feed line going into the frame and then the return line back into the tank.
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    That’s a very good tip to keep the fuel cool, hot fuel will put you on the side of the road like other things. A couple years ago my then 55 Chevy 350 4speed started cutting out, I made it to the auto store, and I could hear the fuel gurgling or boiling inside the intake manifold. On the way home it stopped just about a half mile from home. It would not start until it cooled down.

    I used to use the old trick of wooden clothespins that was pretty common to keep from getting vapor lock. At the drag strip in the 60’s I would see a few different things on the fuel line but your idea has to be the best way to keep the fuel cool. Until recently all these years I never had a problem with the fuel getting hot but it can happen, so your idea is another preventative measure.

    Thanks for the tip, as always you are a genius with mechanical engineering.
    Good to see you back also.

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    Welcome back Ken!

    Putting coolers inside the frame - What a neat idea. I've crammed all kinds of crap inside the frame rails before, but never thought of putting fuel or trans coolers there. Are you allowing ambient air to flow through the frame rail? If so, where are the air intake and outlet?
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    Richard- Thank you, the fuel temperature seems to be very critical on these engines. My exhaust is so close to the fuel tank I was concerned about fuel temperature.

    J.Robinson-Thanks, good to be back. If you look at page 13 you can see the inlets for the air passage on the drivers side is for the fuel cooling and on the passenger side is for the air conditioning plumbing. Both outlets are at the area where the muffler is closest to the floor, trying to get some air movement back there to keep the interior temperatures down and cool the fuel tank.
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    Some really first rate fabricating as always, ken! Sure do agree on the "glad it's over" on the plumbing.... All them hours of work, and few will ever see it!!!!! Oh well, I guess it's the old saying, "Any job worth doing, is worth doing well.". Anyway, some very innovative use of otherwise wasted space!!!!
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    Great vapor lock prevention! Anyone who has driven the high plains of Utah, will probably know about vapor lock. Spent three years doing summer programs throughout the western U.S. Spent my time on the side of the road, and the phone dealing with it, on our old dodge ram 15 passenger vans. We tried many solutions, including putting a second electric fuel pump near the gas tank as a push pump to speed the time the gas was in the fuel line. Sort of worked. In the end, I called the Dodge engineers directly, and they suggested dumping a quart of transmission fluid into a full gas tank on fill up. It changes the vapor point in the gas, and evidently(according to them) doesn't hurt the engine, actually works as a lubricant. Don't know if it hurt the engine, but never got vapor lock in that part of the country ever again!
    I like your solution better Ken!
    And while we are on the subject of fuel lines, since my new fuel tank is in the bed, and not the cab, the person who started this project, routed a rubber fuel line down the frame rail to the cab. Should I replace this with a metal line, or any special fuel line you would recommend(sorry for the highjack, but oh the questions and memories this thread brought up!)
    " "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.

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