Thread: One Way To Build A '32 Hyboy

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Mikes really my brother

Don- I thought you told me it was K Mart, how am I going to find you when you can't keep a job?

Nice shot Ken, slipping a relative in to praise your products.........with thinking like that, you should be running the Country!


Yeah, WalMart is a better deal. I have a fancy title " Personal Inside Greeter" So when you walk in the door and see a guy with a name tag with a big P.I.G on it............that would be me. And I get a discount on cookies.

Don

Heh, heh... I can see Don now. It'll be just like ventriloquist Jeff Dunhams puppet, Walter: "Hi, welcome to Walmart. Get your shit and get out!... Have a nice day."

I thought I would show what these access plates look like before I weld them in. These are larger than what I usually put in but there is so much going on in this one area I want to make sure everything is accessible without disconnecting one thing to get to another. We start with a 3/8" plate then machine off to the thickness of the existing frame material. Then slip it inside the frame and rosette weld it in and weld around that lip, so the finished access panel is flush to the existing frame . Also on the other wall of the frame that I didn't molest, I put in another 1/8" plate that looks like the other side but isn't cut out. In my opinion it is stronger in that area than we I started hacking
Ken

Mike52-Thank you for the kind words. Yes we made both under the Sofspension name. (HD sued me for using that name, but we won)
This is a great place, some really nice cars are being built here, I think the only requirement is you better have a good sense of humor It gets pretty ruff at times. Welcome aboard!
Ken

Thanks for the warm welcome guys.

Don, I look forward to meeting you in Daytona.

Hey little brother, can I borrow the keys to the red Deuce, I won't be gone long, I'll fill it back up with gas and I won't do any burnouts, I promise!!!!!

Originally Posted by Mike52

Thanks for the warm welcome guys.

Don, I look forward to meeting you in Daytona.

Hey little brother, can I borrow the keys to the red Deuce, I won't be gone long, I'll fill it back up with gas and I won't do any burnouts, I promise!!!!!

Sure, if you promise!!




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Clickable link ???

Originally Posted by Ken Thurm

I thought I would show what these access plates look like before I weld them in. These are larger than what I usually put in but there is so much going on in this one area I want to make sure everything is accessible without disconnecting one thing to get to another. We start with a 3/8" plate then machine off to the thickness of the existing frame material. Then slip it inside the frame and rosette weld it in and weld around that lip, so the finished access panel is flush to the existing frame . Also on the other wall of the frame that I didn't molest, I put in another 1/8" plate that looks like the other side but isn't cut out. In my opinion it is stronger in that area than we I started hacking
Ken

See there you go again, great idea, I think i'll rough out somthing similar
for the hole in my floor pan to access my master cylinder! I used rough out, to clearly state, that mine won't come close in the pretty dept.!

That's a great way to do that Ken. Takes some time certainly, but what a difference it makes in the overall car. Gonna be a shame to upholster this one and hide all the neat touches you have put into it. For that matter, it's a shame to cover up the frame and running gear with a body!

Don

Don & Steve,
Thanks, there a lot of advantages to putting all this stuff in the frame. Just keeping it away from all the elements and crap, besides not seeing all that stuff. Of course this is just my opinion.

I'm hijacking my own thread but I thought I would share this. I'm still thinking about the Ardun project so I ordered one of those plastic motors. I have used them before and it is really helpful when you are having to pull it out every other day. I called this guy on a Sat. night just to leave a message to ask questions about the replica he makes. It seems he just got back from Europe that night and stopped buy his shop on the way home. We start talking about his motor and he start telling me this story. He asked me what I was going to use for an intake, and I said I wasn't sure yet but would probably build fuel injection for it, something along the lines of the old Algon style, (spelling). He asked me if I watched Nascar, I said yes. He asked me if I knew who Zora Arkas Duntov was, yes, did you know he also was instrumental in working on the small block Chevy, yes, he said I'm going to send you a manifold that Nascar uses today. I said O.K.
Well the plastic motor shows up and the manifold, I bolt it together and guess what, the manifold is so close to fitting perfectly, with some small messaging it would work. I'm not going to put a 4 barrel carburetor on a V12 but the coincidence is pretty strange.
Ken

Been wondering what you have been up to..........you haven't been around much lately. You know you are breaking the first rule of hot rod building........don't start another one till the first one is done. I thought I was the only guy who didn't adhere to that one.

That is strange about that manifold fitting on there like it does. The ports look very close and some of the bolt holes are just a little off from the pictures. But don't you have to order two of those plastic engines so you can saw them up to make your V12?

How is your Wife's healing coming?

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

don't you have to order two of those plastic engines so you can saw them up to make your V12?

How is your Wife's healing coming?

Don

Don thanks for asking the question I was afraid to ask. I kept thinking isn't it a v-12? Pretty cool about the manifold, but same question about an 8 fitting a 12? I'm amazed they had a plastic Ardon in the first place!

Yeah, I bet the guy loved it when you said "I need to order one of your engines, and by the way, I'm going to cut it in half!"

Don

Hi Ken,

Man, your work is just amazing. You give me a lot of good ideas...

OK, I wanted to tell you... Just the other day I was talking to a friend of mine who just happens to be the local "go-to guy" for anything related to Flatheads. I told him about your plan to build a V-12 with Ardun conversion... You will need to verify this with someone firsthand, but he says that the Lincoln V-12 was actually based on the little 60hp V-8. What this means is the bores are smaller and more closely spaced than the larger V-8's plus the head bolt spacing is completely different. He says it would be easier to make heads from scratch than to modify existing Arduns! As I said, you will need to verify this, but that was his opinion. I thought you might want to know that so you could look into it...

Can't believe they had a plastic v-12, man are you lucky. No lifting that heavy block in & out.
BradC