34-40, Tell me more about whatever you do with the electrical stuff since I also have the complete It's-a-Snap wiring as well as the gauges. Any pictures will be appreciated.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
34-40, Tell me more about whatever you do with the electrical stuff since I also have the complete It's-a-Snap wiring as well as the gauges. Any pictures will be appreciated.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Mike that is the frame the car is sitting on , it is a amateur restore but it looks very clean in pic . I think i payed a fair price for its condition and where it sits complete and a title . Pic on page 26 on the frame . Was more then $8 dollars though LOL
Randy thanks for the link i have searched up and down just looking at the moment . The stance though is burned in my head , i can shut my eye's and see it . It makes it so much easier when a identical build is on line helps a lot .
Dave electricals is going to be my night mare here . I can sheet metal , brush on some paint but have shyed away from these repairs as much as possible .
Don, I only used the Streamliner gauges from It's a Snap, my wiring "kit" is from Ron Francis. What questions do you have? I've never used "Snaps" wiring "kit". I'm known by my car friends to be in my "element" when it comes to playin' with circuits. Naturally we'll help all we can. Not sure how this pic will come out, I don't play enough with computers so we'll see if I cropped it enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Shillady
34-40, That is OK, send whatever pictures you can. I am currently muddeling through installation of the fuel line and rearranging the transmission cooler lines to my Walker radiator. I have been putting off the electrical part as much as possible while I install as many mechanical things as possible but I will have to get on the electrical problem soon, so at your convenience send what pictures you have on the electrical installation to give me ideas. At this point I would like to see pictures of anyone who has used the hard lines to the radiator transmission cooler since the area around the fuel pump in the forward right side is very busy already and it will be hard to thread another tube line through there. I also have a problem in that the B&M tranmission temperature gauge has a white face while my It's-A-Snap instruments have an antique face so at this point I am not sure where to put the trans temp gauge so it will not contrast with the other instruments. The picture I am going to show is before I installed the heater under the dash so the right side of the dash has a radio and a switch for the heater. I could fit in the transmission temperature gauge if I redrill the ignition switch hole and move it but then the white face of that gauge will not match the antique face of the It's-A-Snap gauges. No problem just let me see a few pictures of your electrical installation when you can.
Don ShilladyRetired Scientist/teen rodder
Hey Bobby,
Here's a couple more 37 Ford links for ya...
http://www.srbymichael.com/construct...is/lewis.shtml
http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/Minshew-01.html
Randy thanks spent the last hour sipping coffee looking at them . Now its time to head to the place that funds this hobby .
Talked to the owner last night all go for this Saturday road trip . Just 3 more days till i get up and roll .
Exsanguination (also known colloquially as bleeding out) is the fatal process of total hypovolemia (blood loss). It is most commonly known as "bleeding to death". The word itself originated from Latin: ex ("out of") and sanguis ("blood").Quote:
Originally Posted by IC2
That's enough of them 10 dollar words! I had to go find wikipedia to figure out what you're saying!:LOL:
Bluestang. I'm excited for you! I remember the night before bringing home any of my cars! Always a sleepless night!:) I think you did well with your purchase. Heck - they just don't makem anymore and I think they are the last of the good looking cars!
[QUOTE=34_40]Exsanguination (also known colloquially as bleeding out) is the fatal process of total hypovolemia (blood loss). It is most commonly known as "bleeding to death". The word itself originated from Latin: ex ("out of") and sanguis ("blood").
That's enough of them 10 dollar words! I had to go find wikipedia to figure out what you're saying!:LOL:
!/QUOTE]
Just a bit of "food" for thought - that is assuming you're a vampire - and this is the time of year (Halloween's coming) for those beasties:LOL: :LOL:
Bobby - the '37 could have only been better (IMHO:D ) if it was, my fave, a rare club coupe.
Mike I know the feeling Friday will be a hard day to relax .
Dave those Club Coupes are rare , they have a back seat also am i right . That making it a larger roof line .
Thats only a $10 word has enough letters to be at least $50 .
I couldn't even pronounce it with that many letters in it!:LOL: I wonder where he dug that one up from?**)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestang67
Quote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
Just a font of knowledge (spelled B-U-L-:..... aw heck, you know the rest of the story :LOL: :LOL: )
Now there is a $33 dollar one , I think I am going back to school cars are tough enough . But keep it going a worked mind is a comforted soul .
Well it is home and not as clean as i hoped for but still a nice car for age . I will have to replace the front cowls inner and outer the right door bottom and the quarter lowers .
The floor i received with it is clean but i am thinking of a full front replacement eliminating the wood at the toe panels .
The chassis work has made up for all the down falls of it though . some good lower pics , none of the floor yet with the pillar work required .
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/41...500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/12...500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/11...500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/42...500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/40...500x500Q85.jpg
Maybe you don't know what good is? The trunk floor is excellent, all it needs is some black paint! If you knew how many rusty trunk floors I have seen in '37-'40 coupes you would appreciate the excellent metal you have!
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Don I guess i have to much memory of the cars 20 + years ago . He said the old frame was bad so car must have been close to the ground . I agree that the the rear is great but i was hoping for prime and paint LOL . The sheet metal will be easy just some added expense i was hoping to go with out . But in the end I know it will be a good solid car . Just will have to put some hours In it .
Bobby - that car is better then the club coupe that I had in the '60s. Nice solid find (tho mine had a perfect grille, trim and good rechromable bumpers for some reason). Sighhhhhh
Dave the pic distorted the grill the bars are straight but there is light rust on it . The center piece has some dents but i think i seen them for sale .
Now to get rid of the 31 and focus just on this and the Mustang .
Although I am not a body man by any stretch of the imagination, I have messed (messed is the proper word) with '39 and '40 Ford bodies at a time when I did not have the funds to do things right and I studied the available patch panels as well as pieces cannabalized from junk bodies. One of the most common problems needing patching is the quarter panel of course but that is relatively easy to fix. The more serious problem is that so-called tool space at the back of the trunk floor which requires a talented body man to cut out and weld in the new "duck tail" of the body. Because that space is below the level of the floor it tended to accumulate water and many of the '40s I looked at had serious deterioration there. Extensive patch panels are available for the whole floor of those cars but yours is superb! Just light sanding, priming and the usual black or body color (99% were black) paint will make it look like new! I know what you mean about how cars used to look, I used to take great interest when I would find patches of original black paint on the old bodies but it was usually surrounded by patches of rust. That body is really nice!
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Don worse part is the pillars to the floor are rusty and separating pretty bad . Both inner and outer cowls and front body mounts are in need of serious replacement . The quarters have been patched awhile ago and are going again . I am glad that the replacement panels are available because it will need every one . The total I added for parts if I go with a new steel floor instead of the original I got with it will be about $1300 . I will also need to find the dimensions to pull it all back together and square it all up . I did receive the new tool tray and will have to get the rear outer roll pan . The rear floor is the best inner piece it has .
The upper part of this body is a 10 but when I put some picks up of floor and pillars it turns into a 5 or 6 real quick . It's hard to understand how the body stayed so clean and the floor went home to the earth . The parts aren't big either but they sure are expensive . If i had a brake I would try to form the inner cowls myself they are $105 a piece .
Don stick with me here sounds like you will have some answers I may need as I get to it soon .
Don I just looked at it and see what your saying about paint , Most of the cars that sat outside are solid surface rust . This car does look good as compared to some of the others .
Bobby - don't be discouraged. The car is maybe not a 10, but I'd give it an 8. If you went to Michigan to pick it up and that's where it's from, it still has a body from a rust belt state. To date myself nearer to Don's age, I purchased my '37 Coupe in 1961. The floorboards, front to rear, were street signs and Havoline cans. The drivers door was total rot and the pass side not much better, but I was able to get two perfect replacement doors for $15. It had a big dent over the pass side rear window and the clutch was frozen to the flywheel - but I only paid $50 for the car. Yours, 47 years older, is for a fact a better car.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestang67
Now, if you want to part with it, and with inflation added to the original $50 that I paid for my coupe, I'll be generous and offer you, say $125 for a 71 year old car (of course I paid a bit less for my '37 Hump in 1956 - $8.00, but that car had more hurt):LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Dave not discouraged at all matter of fact i'm stoked up pretty much i love this 37 model great lines and persona . I'm just mentioning the work it will take to pull this one together . Sheet metal is a easy chore just wish the prices where a little more attainable with out crashing the car funds . The upper body is really straight that is a plus , deck lid looks like new inside . The replacement front metal is perfect also .
I will keep the $125 in mind though when i cut off the bottom of the right door :D
Hey not bleek at all spent some time today looking up these parts . Yogi had the excact part pictured a few others had the reference photos up . The part has every thing needed so no probs . Seen the first photo and looked like only a section of piece was available . Figured it would be a make shift piece but its all good . Glad i did some looking since i played hooky from work . Had a great 2.5 hour napp watched Iron Man good day .
Here is pics of inner though with pillar and floor does look scary but i can cut and replace easy .
http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/40...425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/42...425x425Q85.jpg
Hey guys....I sign the papers on the extra garage this week! WooHoo!!!! Hopefully I will be posting more progress soon!!!
Dave, I'm keeping up with your progress on your other posts. It's looking great!
Mike, I trust your back is healed so you can crawl under your dash at will now, right?
Bobby, how are things coming on your 37? Have you started a build thread on it? I'm excited to hear your plans for it and see the progress...
Anyway, gotta run for now. Just wanted to share my news.....Catch you guys later.
Randy
Randy congrats on your extra space , like you need more garage space . So untill i can move one i'm tied up also . Been listing the A but there is no money out there .
ALRIGHT RANDY!!! I'm so happy for you! That's GREAT NEWS !.!.!.!Quote:
Originally Posted by randyr
My back has become the least of my troubles as I suffered a heart attack 2 weeks ago! Also learned that I'm diabetic and suffer from low blood pressure!
My life has changed in the last couple weeks to be sure. Wife won't let me work on the car for at least another week after I start physical therapy! :(
Mike just rest and get better the car will still be there . Just think you get to visit here more often while you are resting
Randy - Glad you can finally spread out a bit. I'm still a bit tied up with some post election "clean up" with the candidate I was working with - we lost to the "charisma" carried through the ranks by the other side. Such is life. Good guys with good ideas don't always finish first:CRY:
My car - s-lo-o-w-l-y taking shape and within a couple of good 8 hour days til its' trip North to the upholsterer.
34_40/Mike, I just came across your phone number in my truck and will be giving you a call in a few days but am off to "work(?)" now.
Randy / Dave thanks for the kind thoughts. Can't do much more than rest right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by IC2
IC2, sorry to hear of your "loss" to the other guy. At least you participated! More than many do in todays politics. Me included - sad to say! At least your car is headed to the upholsterer and that means progress! Gotta give you a big WooHoo for that! (I'm jealous to be sure) LOL...:3dSMILE: :LOL: :)
I look forward to your call! (work?, huh? makin' Xmas dollars?)
Randy, be sure to tell us what's it like havin' all that space!:p
Hey guys,Quote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
I spent yesterday & today taking down the wall between the 2 garages so I can have an open space. It wasn't a solid wall anyway, just 1x6's nailed in place to separate the space. I built some shelves & a work bench, now I just have to figure out where everything will go so I can find it when I need it. That's always a problem for me....I lost my hammer several times today...LOL!
What's up with the heart, Mike? Was there much damage or was it more of a wake up call? I hope the latter. You gotta take care of yourself, my friend. We have cars to finish.....LOL! Here's hoping & praying for a speedy & complete recovery!!!
Randy
Did you recycle that wall into shelves and a bench? Losing the hammer is a good sign I think!Quote:
Originally Posted by randyr
Damage? We won't know for at least 6 months how much and if it's permanent. Right now I'm pumpin' about 15% !!! But they say I can get that back up with therapy, diet etc. etc. etc. I say there's no place to go but up! The doctors and nurses continually told me and the family that I was the only patient in CCU that was smiling and laughing every day. I tried to keep a good outlook each day. Cryin' about it won't help I figure! I am actually going to the garage tonite to see the guys! First time in weeks.:)
Randy I will be needing some good build reference soon . If the A moves the 37 moves in its place and i will need some close up pics of special areas to get them put back together . So get the wall knocked down build the bench and get some more work done on the great heirloom 37 you have .
Hey Bobby,Quote:
Originally Posted by bluestang67
The wall is down, the bench is built, now I just have to organize my tools and stuff so I can find things I need when I need them. I'm excited to get back to work on my car! Time and money are tight but there are plenty of things to do on it in the meantime. Let me know when you need more pics and I'll be happy to accomodate.
Mike, I hope your time in the garage this weekend was healthful and theraputic. If you don't already, figure out a way to make a healthy diet and exercise part of your daily life. It'll make a huge difference! Don't mean that to sound preachy, I just know it works and many people don't do it until it's too late.
Dave, how are things? Is the car at the upholsterer yet? You need to post some video of your first drive around the block, ok?
Catch you guys later...
Randy
Randy Thanks dimensional will be the biggest hurdle and your is probable right on for what i need . Thanks again .
The hours spent in the shop this weekend were some of the best ever! It's like that old saying, "you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone"! I did drive the coupe around and it was the best therapy! :whacked: :3dSMILE: :whacked: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by randyr
Randy, I start physical therapy this wednesday and meet with the nutritionist right after! My wife has become the food police and tossed out all my old "junk food" (her words) .. I guess the time has come for a change in my life and I better embrace it..... sigh.....
Just a few photos to show that I REALLY am making some progress. The pan underneath is from my (hopefully) past ATF leak:HMMM:
Also - great talking with you Mike - and it really sounds like there is good progress (but don't let your LL take away all of your junk food)
Hey Dave,
The car is looking pretty sweet!! That's exciting and inspirational....cool!
Randy
Dave, I'll second Randy's opinion. "That's exciting and inspirational....cool" It's just a pretty sweet ride!Quote:
Originally Posted by randyr
It was great chatting with you also and thanks for the pep talk.:3dSMILE:
I'm 3rd Dave W. she is really looking sweet . Remember all the pics from frame up build and now its here great job .
Thanks guys - after tomorrow I'll be able to get back to work on the car in earnest as my ~1 acre yard with its' 20 "mighty" oak trees in and bordering will have shed their leaves and be carted into the woods. At least no 6-8 wheel barrow loads of acorns this year - none at all!! But with that said, maybe not - my wife begins her life of leisure writing up 'honey do' lists. Her early retirement begins at 5:00 tomorrow night:HMMM: :HMMM: :D
I bought a big new leaf blower to help clear the leaves away - it lasted all of 2.5 tanks of gas before it crapped out and will go back to Lowe's today. My history with anything made by MTD (Troy Bilt/and now Bolens to name a couple of their products) is that the survival is less then stellar - I also have an MTD snow blower that died a couple of years ago that is still under the deck waiting "transport" to the dump - it was only a couple of years old when it went to yard implement heaven. The dead MTD lawn mower went a couple of months ago. But I did buy a new rake:o and that works just fine!!!(my aching shoulders)
Hey Fellas,
I haven't fallen of the face of the earth.....geez, it's been over a month since we've posted on this thread! Yikes!
I've been tied up on other projects like a film-making class and things that pay the rent but this past week I managed to get my new garage situation painted. I'm now trying to organize and find places for everything so I can work on my car more efficiently.....yeah, that's a lofty goal, I know!
I'm going to Oklahoma to see my family for Christmas for a couple of weeks then hopefully get back to work on the car. It would be so cool to have it running by the fall of '09! Hey, all it takes is time and money, right?? Too bad I'm short on both of those! It's all good though!
Just wanted to thank you guys for all your advice, help & encouragement thus far! Here's wishing you an Amazing Christmas and all the Best in the new year!!
Later,
Randy