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Man, just sitting here listening to some of the debate concerning the Keystone Pipe Line. It's been under 'consideration' for more then 40 months now, and still no permits issued!!!!! The State Department has rejected the approval because they haven't had time to study it. Do you believe tht??? The pipeline would take oil from Canada to the refinery's in Texas, the State Dept. isn't sure they could require this oil to be used here in the US and not put on the export market..... and our President, after some "environmentalists" protested it has decided to do nothing about it till after the election!!!!! Canada is saying get off your butts and build the pipeline or we'll sell the oil to China.......

This debate is taking place in the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee. Think I'm going to put an email together and ask my Representative (we only have 1 here in South Dakota) why the heck we aren't building this thing.....

BTW---also, there would be 20,000 to 35,000 jobs created in just building the pipeline~!!!!!!! Wow, no wonder this country is so upside down, nobody wants to do anything til after the election in November!!!!!! Isn't there anybody in our Government that gives a hoot about what is best for America, and not just what's best for them?????

Originally Posted by IC2

Joining to subscribe and add a couple of comments. Good subjects so far.

Then of course that super duper bowl ...... the Giants train locally at SUNY Albany and the Patriots are not far away. I can't spend Sunday afternoons watching behemoths run into each other until the play offs, so my knowledge of that sport is l-o-o-o-w.

Unions - not pretty where I worked at Schenectady, NY and at GE. A couple of 100 plus day strikes, along with a few in the 10 to 30 day bracket were pretty painful for the rank and file and pretty much destroyed the GE manufacturing businesses to the point some were sold, others moved to other locations and then more were sited 'off shore'. The local plant went from about 40,000 to about 3500 with some contractors as well. 600 buildings of outhouse size up to several acres of land coverage abandoned, then demolished and destroying the city's and a local town's tax base.

Yeah Dave, around our house my wife is a much bigger sports fan than I. The big plays are exciting, but having to sit through two or three hours for a few highlights? Not generally my thing, either. On the GE/Schenectady history, it amazed me that Jack Welch was being touted as a fantastic corporate manager, selling books on his techniques like Six Sigma (don't get me started.....), and taking record amounts to the bottom line while all the time he was decimating the company, selling off business lines, closing shops, and raiding the pension fund with "creative approaches" to earlly retirement/contract labor. He should have been tarred & feathered and run out of town on a rail, but instead he was on a pedestal.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Man, just sitting here listening to some of the debate concerning the Keystone Pipe Line. It's been under 'consideration' for more then 40 months now, and still no permits issued!!!!! The State Department has rejected the approval because they haven't had time to study it. Do you believe tht??? The pipeline would take oil from Canada to the refinery's in Texas, the State Dept. isn't sure they could require this oil to be used here in the US and not put on the export market..... and our President, after some "environmentalists" protested it has decided to do nothing about it till after the election!!!!! Canada is saying get off your butts and build the pipeline or we'll sell the oil to China.......

This debate is taking place in the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee. Think I'm going to put an email together and ask my Representative (we only have 1 here in South Dakota) why the heck we aren't building this thing.....

BTW---also, there would be 20,000 to 35,000 jobs created in just building the pipeline~!!!!!!! Wow, no wonder this country is so upside down, nobody wants to do anything til after the election in November!!!!!! Isn't there anybody in our Government that gives a hoot about what is best for America, and not just what's best for them?????

Dave,
Keystone is a project that I have followed personally for almost two years, including personal communication (lobbying) to state and federal politicians urging support and a canned letter to Obama two days before he blocked it. There is a pro-active web-based group that has sprung up across the country, and they are very well informed from an engineering/technical basis on energy issues from infrastructure through supply and delivery. Their organization (technically evil lobbiests ) provides the vehicle for individual citizens to become informed, debate pros & cons, and then promotes individual action through informed communications to politicians. Keystone had become one of their major banners in the past six months, and we're seeing some of the backlash of the decision in continued debate, duck & cover in Washington. What is so frustrating is that Obama's advisors on the labor/economy front were behind the project 100%, but it was seen as a potential alienator to environmentalists, who really had no firm basis for being against the project.

As I understand, Canada (the tar sands are in northern Alberta, a western province) is proceeding with their own pipeline running west to BC, where the oil will be loaded on tankers and shipped to China. Now that really helps us decrease our dependence on Saudi oil, doesn't it?? All for a stronger feeling about a handful of votes. Stinks, to me, but that's just my opinion.