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I for one like to hear feel good stuff, really fed up with the doom and gloom bs..... But you're right, it will never happen the way Congress works. A democratic President could never propose anything that would be acceptable to a Republican controlled house. The art of compromise is gone in politics.

I guess it's up to the voters to decide if they want things to continue on this downhill tumble, or if they want to vote some individuals in to Congress who will actually do something for the entire country without worrying about what the lobbyists want done!!!!! Nobody gets my vote this year who promises to 'back the party 100%, don't care what party it is. If this country is to be saved from a total collapse it's going to take people in Congress with a whole different mind-set then the "sold to the highest bidder" bunch we have in there now!!!!!!

I'd say the election in 2012 is the voters last chance to start getting things turned around!!!!!! The status quo and business as usual just isn't going to get anything fixed!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

I for one like to hear feel good stuff, really fed up with the doom and gloom bs..... But you're right, it will never happen the way Congress works. A democratic President could never propose anything that would be acceptable to a Republican controlled house. The art of compromise is gone in politics.

I guess it's up to the voters to decide if they want things to continue on this downhill tumble, or if they want to vote some individuals in to Congress who will actually do something for the entire country without worrying about what the lobbyists want done!!!!! Nobody gets my vote this year who promises to 'back the party 100%, don't care what party it is. If this country is to be saved from a total collapse it's going to take people in Congress with a whole different mind-set then the "sold to the highest bidder" bunch we have in there now!!!!!!

I'd say the election in 2012 is the voters last chance to start getting things turned around!!!!!! The status quo and business as usual just isn't going to get anything fixed!!!!!!

Not sure if it was your intention or not, but the way that you've worded that the definition of compromise is doing what the President wants, right or wrong. I realize that's the way a majority of the media frames it, but is that what citizens want/believe? Are we to ignore that a President elected in 2008 with a super majority in the Senate, and an immense majority in the house, who got everything his own party would approve through in his first two years, and who was then repudiated by the voters in 2010 who took away that huge house majority, and almost took away his Senate majority? If that's what you meant I'd love to hear why the Pres deserves to be given a pile of blank checks.

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

Not sure if it was your intention or not, but the way that you've worded that the definition of compromise is doing what the President wants, right or wrong. I realize that's the way a majority of the media frames it, but is that what citizens want/believe? Are we to ignore that a President elected in 2008 with a super majority in the Senate, and an immense majority in the house, who got everything his own party would approve through in his first two years, and who was then repudiated by the voters in 2010 who took away that huge house majority, and almost took away his Senate majority? If that's what you meant I'd love to hear why the Pres deserves to be given a pile of blank checks.

Brent/Bill-do you see the problem/complaint I have here??.I asked them to start another thread because I don't want to be associated with this mistakenly started thread and they just continue on totally ignoring me.No respect at all.I should not have to be run over like this.