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    How to raise a delinquent..

     



    This was cut from a newspaper 20 years ago.
    It has found its way into a local paper,the Stratford Press...together with a photo of a young male, wearing hoody, baggy jeans and attitude.

    The police department of Houston,Texas,recentlydrew up ''rules' for parents who wish to turn their children into a juvenile delinquent..They are;

    To begin at infancy to give the child everything he/she wants.
    In this way,he will grow up believing the world owes him a living.
    When he picks up bad words,laugh at him.
    This will make him think he is cute.Never give him ant spiritual training.
    Wait until he is 21 and then let him decide for himself,avoid the use of the word ''wrong''.
    It may develop a guilt complex.This will condition him to believe later when he is arrested for stealing a car that society is against him,and he is being persecuted.
    Pick up everything he leaves lying around.
    Do everything for him so that he will experienced in throwing all responsibility on others.
    Let him read any printed material he can get his hands on.
    Be careful that the silver ware and drinking glasses are sterilised but let him feed on garbage.
    Quarrel frequently in the presence of your children.In this way they will not be too shocked when the home is broken up later.
    Give the child all his spending money he wants. Never let him earn his own. Why should he have it as tough as you had?
    Satisfy his every craving for food. See that every second he gets what he wants. Denial may lead to harmful actions.
    Take his side against neighbours, teachers, Police etc. They are all prejudiced against your child. When he gets into real trouble apologise for yourself by saying that, Ī couldnt do anything with him."
    Prepaire for a life of grief - you will have it!!!
    Against these 'rules'place one sure rule - found in the book of Proverbs
    Train up your child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it.
    This is NZ today
    Micah 6:8

    If we aren't supposed to have midnight snacks,,,WHY is there a light in the refrigerator???

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamin8r View Post
    This was cut from a newspaper 20 years ago.
    It has found its way into a local paper,the Stratford Press...together with a photo of a young male, wearing hoody, baggy jeans and attitude.


    This is NZ today
    This saddens me... No matter where you go on earth, our youth have possibly reached a new "all-time low". I know that what I see here in Massachusetts makes me wonder where we'll end up in 20 years?!?!?

    Or, is it a case of each generation having that thought? I wonder what my grandparents thought when they were watching the "hippies" at woodstock on television?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    This saddens me... No matter where you go on earth, our youth have possibly reached a new "all-time low". I know that what I see here in Massachusetts makes me wonder where we'll end up in 20 years?!?!?

    Or, is it a case of each generation having that thought? I wonder what my grandparents thought when they were watching the "hippies" at woodstock on television?
    I wonder also whether or not each generation has the same thoughts,but I am sure that our generation had more respect for our elders than a very large percentage of this current batch of teens to late twenties...
    I would like to think so anyway..
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    If we aren't supposed to have midnight snacks,,,WHY is there a light in the refrigerator???

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    last I checked every generation has it's share of losers and winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamin8r View Post
    I wonder also whether or not each generation has the same thoughts,but I am sure that our generation had more respect for our elders than a very large percentage of this current batch of teens to late twenties...
    I would like to think so anyway..
    Oh YES! We certainly had / have much more respect for those around us and ourselves! "They" are far more worried about being dis-respected and haven't figured out that to get it, you must give it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepRoots View Post
    last I checked every generation has it's share of losers and winners.
    True enough! But as I get older I must only see the Losers!

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    I'm sure our parents thought the same about our generation .......... but it does seem to me that each generation seems to take things a little farther ........ really sad to see

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    We get a lot of the new generation where I work, lot of turn over, and the vast majority have no manners, no morals, and for the most part don't seem to give a d**n.
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    The attitudes that many (most?) kids today is reflected in what they see and hear on the theater screens, TV and computers(and mom and dad). I'm sure I'm among the 'most elderly' here as far as age (not in mind tho) and can remember going through my grandfathers National Geographic magazines for those 'forbidden' pictures of topless 'native' women. Today, just turn on the TV and some of the movies feature nudity well beyond those magazines. There were the 'art' theaters back in the old days that had movies with Brigitte Bardot and others - not much to compare with today's general offerings. The language - I recall well the first time I uttered a profanity heard by mom. OUCH. Not much left for the imagination now from both boys and girls, men and women. The internet - holy moly - do a Google on certain words. Whatever you want to see - it's there in full living front, back internal color. Now back to TV - morning cable shows, even 4 square Fox News. 0700 or so - uhhhh mom, what's 'erectile dysfunction' from your 5 year old. Then the afternoon soap operas - mom, what's that red spot mean and what's a tampon? and from your 7 year old daughter. The world has lost its way as far as morals and codes of behavior. People do atrocities for the thrill of it with no thoughts of the consequences. Then of course, drugs. I have no personal experiences with them besides an occasional antibiotic or aspirin so have no 'feel' for what they can do. I do have an occasional adult beverage, and more then a couple times, a few more then that - but no longer. The war on drugs - not lost, but lots of battles have been failures. But an opinion of mine and probably some medical info to back it can probably be found is that many of the kids were damaged mentally by the drugs their parents used.

    Then there are the racial problems that contribute but I wont discuss this subject on an internet forum.

    I wish we could go back to the '50s and maybe regain our personal standards and some morality, but it gonna happen.
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    We see it all the time around us, Parents who let their kids get away with anything and think it is cute. I can take it for so long, then it gets the best of me and I have to say something. One time I was helping a customer who had his little Daughter with him, and she was tearing up the store. He was acting as if nothing was wrong. Finally, I said to him "Buddy, I feel sorry for you." He asked why, and I told him " If you have no control over her at this age you have no hope when she gets to be 16." He grabbed her by the hand and left the store, but someone had to tell this "Father" that he was doing a horrible job of teaching her right from wrong.

    The biggest mistake I see Parents make is telling their kids to do one thing but doing just the opposite themselves. You can't tell your kids not to drink and drive or do drugs if you do it yourself........kids are smart and don't miss a trick. Both Parents also have to show a united stand when it comes to disciplining. If Dad says one thing and Mom disagrees in front of the kids, they will get mixed messages and feel they can use the weaker Parent to their advantage.

    Raising good kids isn't Rocket Science, but you have to love them enough to sometimes tell them no, and to teach them life has rules and responsibilities. You need to teach them respect for others and manners from the very start.
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    My mother used to say "Stand next to this bed"

     



    So she could stand on it and slap me, and I did.

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    most people are too stupid to see how their actions effect kids.
    por ejemplo
    We had a rule for my daughter that she couldn't eat or drink anywhere other than in the kitchen. So she was drinking a glass of milk and spilled it on the keyboard.
    well, naturally I went out and bought a new keyboard for $17. My daughter was not allowed to use the computer until she paid me $17 (alot for a 6 year old).
    Grandma thought this was the most evil thing.... how could I punish her for a "mistake" as such grandma gave my daughter $17.

    Wow.... really? so I confiscated the money, put it in my daughter's bank account and bitched out grandma on creating loser kids, and explained to her that THIS is why her other son spent 10 years in prison.

    Anyway, you do not spoil a child with too much love. Some people do not understand that loving a child often means you have to let them walk the more difficult path so they can learn things on their own.

    Drew

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    Probably one of the worst things to ever come down the pike was a book titled Baby and Child Care by Dr. Benjamin Spock whose own grandson committed suicide in 1983. I don't believe in book burning, but I might make an exception to that one.
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    We've had years of small erosions of civility and responsibility that all add up, and if we're honest we each have fallen on at least one occasion.

    I see ads for "if you've accumulated more than $10k in credit card charges, we can get your record cleared....yada yada", or in other words there's a Federal Law that says if you're really "good" at racking up credit card bills, you can steal someone else's money to use for trips to Belise, jewelery, and so on, and not pay it back! Great lesson. Or how about, "it's not your fault, you're a victim, it's the fault of (fill in the blank, rich, whites, minories, yada yada). Or "those evil corporations, the rich, your boss, or whomever, that's keeping you down".

    Those examples and many more are just piled on a formable mind and indirectly tell them that bad behavior (or what we used to call bad behavior) is acceptable, especially if you can dream up a politically correct excuse.

    Now, in a sea of negative stuff we're all sharing, I see some light from time to time. Yesterday we took a little trip to Portland so I could buy some hot rod stuff I don't really need. We stopped for lunch at a fast food place. The two little girls in the next booth had to go potty. This place is on a busy intersection so must get a bunch of transient trade and in response they issue a key at the counter to open the head. So the two little girls go in. A short while later a woman with a couple more little girls comes in the front door and tries the bathroom door only to find it locked. A couple moments later the father in the booth next to us gets up and starts walking toward the bathrooms. He noticed the woman waiting and that his girls had been in there awhile. About half way there he had to stop because his girls came out. But we gave him credit for being both attentive and courteous.

    Likewise, again in a restaurant (okay, I've got this thing about eating) a few months ago, there was a kid in a booth a couple away from us that was getting, oh let's call it restless. Mom was all over the situation. She reaches in her bag and pulls out a puzzle, a map of the United States, with the capital cities highlighted. In a few seconds the kid quieted right down as they got involved in putting the puzzle together and his learning the capital names. Very impressive. A short while later we were leaving and I couldn't help but go over and compliment the mother on her attentiveness to others around her, as well as choosing to do something educational to control her kid. She beamed at the acknowledgement. Man....we need more young parents like that. I feel the need to reinforce this kind of good behavior because I'm often just as likely to dress someone down for ignoring their ill behaved little rats (being the shy and retiring sort I am).

    There is still hope.
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    Here's a little story kinda inline with the Topic !

    When my youngest son was in High School, he was attending a Private Church Sponsored School and one day the phone at my Office rang and my secretary shouted, Emmett, it's Bo's school.

    When I answered, another secretary said "would you hold for Mr. Nameless" and then Mr. Nameless got on the phone and said "your son, Bo, has failed to do the required detention after school and I need your permission to administer corporal punishment" - - - - - for a minute, I was speechless and then I said "are you asking me for permission to whip his A???" - - - and he said "Yes Sir" - - - - then I replied "you are his teacher and are responsible for him during the school day so that gives you complete authority and is what you are being paid for - - - and you don't have to call me for permission - - - - if he has broken the rules and not done what he was told then TEAR HIS A?? UP and be sure and tell him that he has another one coming after I get home"!
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