Thread: 2nd Amendment Affirmed

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By the time a person would compute all of this in their brain, seems like a lot of people could get hurt or killed!!! You have the right to defend yourself or others if???? Sounds like a stupid set of rules to try to follow to me. It use to be reach out and help your neighbor but not any more!!!

Richard

I wouldn't even live in an area where I had to carry a gun everywhere I went!!!! No job or lifestyle is that good! So you carry a gun, are you ready to shoot somebody, to kill them??? What if he wasn't trying to car jack you and was trying to get you to call 911 for some other emergency? What if you thought the bad guy was pulling out a gun, you shot him, and he was really reaching for his cell phone??? Too many "what if's" for me!!! Why not just stay out of areas or situations that could possibly require you to kill somebody??? If you're planning on just pulling your gun out to scare the bad guys away, you're as good as dead. The bad guys just shoot with no second thought...

Some talk about carrying a gun as if they really want to shoot somebody!!! What a sick thought---"Go ahead, make my day" was a good movie line for Clint, but hardly the way to resolve any kind of situation....

Have you ever killed anyone, face to face, point blank???? Do you have any idea what a burden that is to bear the rest of your life????

At least take the time to consider the possible consequences of carrying a gun... I think I'll just choose to avoid a situation that requires me carrying a gun....Killing isn't all it's cracked up to be.......justified or not...

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

I wouldn't even live in an area where I had to carry a gun everywhere I went!!!! No job or lifestyle is that good! So you carry a gun, are you ready to shoot somebody, to kill them??? What if he wasn't trying to car jack you and was trying to get you to call 911 for some other emergency? What if you thought the bad guy was pulling out a gun, you shot him, and he was really reaching for his cell phone??? Too many "what if's" for me!!! Why not just stay out of areas or situations that could possibly require you to kill somebody??? If you're planning on just pulling your gun out to scare the bad guys away, you're as good as dead. The bad guys just shoot with no second thought...

Some talk about carrying a gun as if they really want to shoot somebody!!! What a sick thought---"Go ahead, make my day" was a good movie line for Clint, but hardly the way to resolve any kind of situation....

Have you ever killed anyone, face to face, point blank???? Do you have any idea what a burden that is to bear the rest of your life????

At least take the time to consider the possible consequences of carrying a gun... I think I'll just choose to avoid a situation that requires me carrying a gun....Killing isn't all it's cracked up to be.......justified or not...

X2, I don't carry but i have one or two guns


I just like to go out and shoot for sport and if i ever need one for home defence i know how to use it.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

I wouldn't even live in an area where I had to carry a gun everywhere I went!!!! No job or lifestyle is that good! So you carry a gun, are you ready to shoot somebody, to kill them??? What if he wasn't trying to car jack you and was trying to get you to call 911 for some other emergency? What if you thought the bad guy was pulling out a gun, you shot him, and he was really reaching for his cell phone??? Too many "what if's" for me!!! Why not just stay out of areas or situations that could possibly require you to kill somebody??? If you're planning on just pulling your gun out to scare the bad guys away, you're as good as dead. The bad guys just shoot with no second thought...

Some talk about carrying a gun as if they really want to shoot somebody!!! What a sick thought---"Go ahead, make my day" was a good movie line for Clint, but hardly the way to resolve any kind of situation....

Have you ever killed anyone, face to face, point blank???? Do you have any idea what a burden that is to bear the rest of your life????

At least take the time to consider the possible consequences of carrying a gun... I think I'll just choose to avoid a situation that requires me carrying a gun....Killing isn't all it's cracked up to be.......justified or not...

You can go to the safest town, city, state or planet but you will never be sure without a doubt that a criminal wont be there. I don't know what the murder rate is in South Dakota, but I do know there is one.

The rules in Ohio aren't perfect, but the basis of the rule is so you don't come in on a situation that you are not involved in and don't know what's going on and you shoot the wrong person. If i'm in a friends car and we get jacked by an armed thug I am in fear of MY life at that point and can take measures to protect myself if my friend is also protected that's just a bonus.

The Castle Doctrine was a huge step forward for us, the old law was if someone was breaking in the front you had to run out the back, only if you were cornered could you defend yourself. They are working on keeping the law abideing citizen from becoming a criminal because they defended themselves.

It all comes down to this if you don't want to carry dont. If I want to carry it is my legal right.

Ron

Ron B- Great avatar.
Ken

Thank's, I've had my ears done since that picture was taken.

Ron

I didn't want to say anything, but I think that was money well spent
Ken

Originally Posted by Ron B.

You can go to the safest town, city, state or planet but you will never be sure without a doubt that a criminal wont be there. I don't know what the murder rate is in South Dakota, but I do know there is one.

The rules in Ohio aren't perfect, but the basis of the rule is so you don't come in on a situation that you are not involved in and don't know what's going on and you shoot the wrong person. If i'm in a friends car and we get jacked by an armed thug I am in fear of MY life at that point and can take measures to protect myself if my friend is also protected that's just a bonus.

The Castle Doctrine was a huge step forward for us, the old law was if someone was breaking in the front you had to run out the back, only if you were cornered could you defend yourself. They are working on keeping the law abideing citizen from becoming a criminal because they defended themselves.

It all comes down to this if you don't want to carry dont. If I want to carry it is my legal right.

Ron

I am pretty sure it is a privelage, one I surely appreciate. But I am with Dave. Yes S.D. has a murder rate but it isn't hard to avoid that element, stay off the rez and certain parts of the bigger towns. In Rapid City for instance, almost all of the domestic violence calls are to "north Rapid" and more specifically Lakota homes. I would venture to guess that ALL involve some level of inebriation. I don't know the exact statistics and if I repeated them it would seem racist.
Sure, crack houses crop up even in small communities. I guess we just live in a culture that we choose to exist in a attitude of best possible scenario and not worst since it an easy choice to make. If you walk around expecting the worst, guess what you attract?
If it works for you, fine, we just live in a different culture. I have been around this country a bit and you can have those neighborhoods where businesses bar the windows and you have to pay first for gas before you pump. And fwiw we can carry a gun anywhere we want without a permit, although not concealed and many city ordinances forbid it.

Originally Posted by willowbilly3

I am pretty sure it is a privelage, one I surely appreciate............ .

No, it is a RIGHT....not a privilege....thats the whole point of this post....

To Quote Dave Severson in an earlier post...... "It's a right guaranteed to us by the Constitution and just re-affirmed by the Supreme Court..."

So please understand that this was a very important decision to all of us who demand the RIGHT to self defence.

Originally Posted by T42

No, it is a RIGHT....not a privilege....thats the whole point of this post....

To Quote Dave Severson in an earlier post...... "It's a right guaranteed to us by the Constitution and just re-affirmed by the Supreme Court..."

So please understand that this was a very important decision to all of us who demand the RIGHT to self defence.

Linguistics, many arguments ensue with both people saying the same thing. The right to defend yourself is NOT the same thing as the privilege to carry a concealed weapon imo. I personally still view it as a privilege and would treat it as such, labels aside.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wirestory?id=3407703
nuff said

So how would things have been different if the homeowner had a gun??? A big shootout---probably the same outcome.....

So this incident means everyone should carry a concealed weapon, and have a loaded weapon in bed with them???

If the entire country gets that bad---I'm leaving.....

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

So how would things have been different if the homeowner had a gun??? A big shootout---probably the same outcome..... Maybe. But just maybe, the family could have been protected. I prefer a chance to no chance.

So this incident means everyone should carry a concealed weapon, and have a loaded weapon in bed with them??? No, but I've noticed that since a large proportion of the states have concealed carry laws, the "Wild West" has not erupted - as predicted by some.

If the entire country gets that bad---I'm leaving.....

Not arguing - just another point of view.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

So how would things have been different if the homeowner had a gun??? A big shootout---probably the same outcome.....

So this incident means everyone should carry a concealed weapon, and have a loaded weapon in bed with them???

If the entire country gets that bad---I'm leaving.....

All I am saying is that the two thugs (who raped and murdered his wife and daughters) were only armed with a bat. If he had a gun, things might have been different.

I have guns too, my own plus the one's I've inherited from my Grandfather, my father, and one Uncle. They are all safely locked away in a gun vault. Nothing wrong with owning guns, sport shooting, or hunting.... It's a right guaranteed to us by the Constitution and just re-affirmed by the Supreme Court....