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    Most of the copper tubing we see on the general market is either Type K or Type L, and sometimes Type M, and all come in either drawn tubing (hard copper) or annealed tubing (soft copper). The difference is only wall thickness for these common products with Type M being thinnest, Type K thickest for higher pressure service. The other difference that we see is that tubing designated "air conditioning/refrigeration (ACR)" is by actual OD dimension vs nominal OD (1/8" larger than the tube size). All tubing carrying the ASTM designation is 99.9% pure copper (according to the Copper Development Association), and is deoxidized by adding a small amount of phosphorus during processing.
    I can't explain why the weld backed by tube vs buss bar material is different, other than perhaps the buss bar being dead flat, and the tube being pounded flat and having a bit of air gap that expands when heated? There's likely a better answer than that, but I don't have time to look any more right now.

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    Thanks for posting the additional info on the copper. The bar being flat against the panel is a likely scenario, next time we employ the tube we'll have to bend in a flat area to see if that helps our issue.


    Progress from this past week.. Kyle got started on media blasting the drivers side wheel well and I "assembled" the two components for the passenger side..











    We plan on epoxy primer on these prior to installation, so the media blasted surface will give a good bite for the primer.

    Here's the test fit of the assembled passenger side wheel well...








    Next, the road trip on Friday.. To preface, a couple weeks ago someone had posted a link showing a Baileigh English wheel on eBay (the big one). In the background was one of the Baileigh power hammers. So I called the contact number in the ad, asked if the hammer was available, which he said yes. He gave me a price, asked for a deposit, and this past Friday was the pick up day. I left the house at 1:45 am, picked up my nephew Chris, and drove to CT. Got it loaded up, made it back to the house by 10 pm, quite a long day. Wait....it's supposed to rain tomorrow, let's unload! So we got it off the trailer and inside by 11. Saturday, after sleeping in, was spent locating a spot for the machine, hooking up power, and trying it out on some scrap metal..





    Excited to have this additional capability in the shop.
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    Nice machine. Liked the custom pinstriping
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    Those came out wicked for sure. Amazing work
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    Love the work on the wheel wells!

    New tool, it's like Xmas!

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    The wheel well looks great. That new piece of equipment is awesome! Since we're on the topic of power hammers, what are your thoughts on one of these for a beginner?

    Pneumatic Planishing Hammer
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    Thanks for the comments!

    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    The wheel well looks great. That new piece of equipment is awesome! Since we're on the topic of power hammers, what are your thoughts on one of these for a beginner?

    Pneumatic Planishing Hammer
    I've never used one of them to be able to provide a critique, but what are you trying to use it for? A planishing hammer is primarily used to smooth out dings/dents caused in forming process or perhaps body damage. If you're looking at it for shaping, it will likely be underpowered or take quite a bit of time to complete the process.. Where I've never been in my local HF store, I've read enough to know that you either need a coupon or pick up one of the many on CL from people who already have them. Perhaps answer a CL ad and ask to try it out first, see if it performs to your expectation. Not sure that the store has air available to kick the tires...
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    Ryan: I show that same machine on page 9 post #132 in my build log.
    Cheap, but works fine for planishing the blisters on my hood.
    Any hammer form project makes it useful for me. Used it on
    the tyrannie cover also.
    Wait for a 20 percent off sale. No air at stores.

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    Thanks guys. I was thinking of using it for tranny covers and some odds and ends stuff. Something to try to learn on too I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP&C View Post
    With the wheel hub faced, the flange is trimmed...





    The attachment bracket....








    Pressed back together...








    "test run" videos:


    https://youtu.be/zsDe02QEmyo


    https://youtu.be/1JB4kHLbjQc





    Material clamps should be here tomorrow, so we'll try and get some louvers punched next week.

    I was referred to the post from my build log and wow this is some really in depth incredible work you have going here. The way you explain each picture n give a brief description of what's going on is really helpful, I will have to remember that for the next time I post. Looking forward to the progress, going to be a wicked mean ride.
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    Thanks!


    Was working on finishing blocking roof and quarters Saturday when the high winds took out the power for a couple hours.. Not to be deterred, the Milwaukee flashlight comes to the rescue...





    Power came back on just after lunch and we got the next dose of Epoxy applied. These sure are some long quarters, I think I'll try a Yugo for the next project, shouldn't need anywhere near the paint prep...








    or the video version:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06HesZWWT5I


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    Those quarters were probably perfect 3 blocking ago! LOL..
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    Next time your out of power your welcome to use my garage and any tools, and ply your trade to my 48 F1! Nice work!
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    [QUOTE=34_40;561447]Those quarters were probably perfect 3 blocking ago! LOL..[/QUOTE

    Given the amount of painstaking, amazing work, attention to detail and resulting perfection of this project, that first door ding at Walmart is probably going to make the owner consider a choice between murder & suicide.....
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    If the "owner" is foolish enough to take this to Wal-Mart, one of us needs to go take it away from him/her!
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