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08-22-2011 10:07 AM #1
This is what I used at GE when doing miscellaneous machine work. They are many years old, but still in very good condition. And yes, they are mine, not hot!!
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AMAZON (and others) still have them - and wowee did they get pricey - $119. My recollection is that I paid (from my Snap-on guy, no less) about $15-$20 bucks: http://www.amazon.com/Tru-Center-Exp.../dp/B001C1D67KLast edited by IC2; 08-22-2011 at 10:11 AM.
Dave W
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08-22-2011 10:56 AM #2
Wow you and Dan make nice stuff! I think Jim and Charlie and Jerry are right on that this will work well. The screw punches Jerry posted about would save me tons of grief. No matter how acurate I mark stuff, the drilling always seems off!" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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08-22-2011 11:03 AM #3
McMaster----
Transfer screw point number 3385A22 for 7/16-14---most all numbers are 3385xxx but McMaster-Carr will get you there
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08-22-2011 12:50 PM #4
How do you use those, exactly ?
Don
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08-22-2011 04:30 PM #5
there are usually maybe 6 that come in a tube that is the handle for installing/adjusting the depth of them. you use the size of the hole/thread for the hole you want to transfer--adjust so the pointed tip sticks up a bit above the surface and then tap the material you want the hole in over the points---gices you the center point for drilling---I will usually then take a regular center punch and wack it a little bit more so the drill won't wonder--
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08-22-2011 11:07 PM #6
Ok, Jerry, I get it now. I am going to pick up a set of those. Thanks.
Tonight Dan and Don helped me put the engine back on the completed mounts and we must have measured right, because it went right down on all four holes........almost like we knew what we were doing.
Here are a couple of pictures of the bare frame and then the motor sitting on all 4 mounts. Now I can make up the transmission crossmember.
Don
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08-23-2011 02:22 AM #7
yep them work nice but i am cheap so i just hand thread set screws in back wards and give the plate a blast with a hammer you can use thin jam nut on the sets if you have the room make them up before hand with a small bit of loc-tie on the nut so you can back them out or just grind two flats on the sets to back them out. more then two holes i drill some hole to size then bolt up plate to keep the lay out from movingLast edited by pat mccarthy; 08-23-2011 at 03:02 AM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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08-23-2011 08:06 AM #8
Lots of times I'll use a transfer punch chucked into drill chuck on milling machine to center up on the mark from the transfer screw. This allows a bit more accuratcy and if its real technical(like when I was doing some fab work on stock block Indy cars) I would use a dial circle thingie!!!( what are they called???)
With the mill operation it is possible to record the deminsions as you move from hole to hole and more easily build repeat items--
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08-23-2011 08:19 AM #9
i use a 1/8 drill and watch if it hit,s the punch mark on center if not on center it will bow the drill or pop off the center mark . i move the table till it hit dead on lock it down or you can use a wiggler .yep a mill takes all the fun out of itLast edited by pat mccarthy; 08-24-2011 at 04:12 AM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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08-24-2011 01:19 AM #10
I didn't feel like going to bed early tonight, so I went to the shop and knocked out the crossmember that goes under the transmission tailshaft. It doesn't have to be anything special, as the two engine mounts are going to take the bulk of the load, all it needs to do is give some extra support for the transmission itself.
The first thing I had to do was cut some 3x 5 pieces of plate 1/4 inch thick, that will be welded to the insides of the frame rails. The sole purpose of these plates will be to add to the thickness of the frame in that area so I can tap threads there for my removable crossmember. The frame is 3/16 and with the 1/4 inch plates welded on it will give me 7/16 of thickness, which should be more than enough for three 3/8 bolts per side to go through.
Then I cut a piece of 1 and 3/4 inch DOM round tubing for the crossmember, and some triangular plates for each end. These will weld on and in turn bolt to the frame. I also cut a 1/4 inch thick piece of steel to act as the mount under the rubber transmission mount. That plate will weld to the round crossmember, and we will add some gussets to it before we are done.
Not a huge project, but still a little more progress. I'll get Dan over to the shop one night this week to weld it all up for me and then we can move on to the rear suspension. I was hoping to have it as a complete roller by the end of August, but since it is the 24th already, that will probably not happen. I'm really in no rush, so that is ok.I could have welded this one up myself, but Dan does it so much better that I might as well let him do it.
Here are some pictures I took tonight of the stuff I made.
DonLast edited by Itoldyouso; 08-24-2011 at 01:35 AM.
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08-24-2011 04:20 AM #11
I'll bet no zingers about engine/tranny support now
That really looks greatDave W
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08-24-2011 04:58 AM #12
Looks great, Don!
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08-24-2011 05:43 AM #13
Looking great pops! What are you doing up so late last night?? Geez ! Don Jr.Don Jr.
"Once again I have thoroughly disgusted myself"
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08-24-2011 07:44 AM #14
Thanks, guys. Don, well, I was just coming in from the nightclub and.........................
Ok, the truth is, there was nothing on TV worth watching and that little nap I took in the afternoon killed my sleep, so I decided to do something productive. Plus it is so much cooler after midnight that I got a lot more done than I would during the day.
Don
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08-24-2011 03:49 PM #15
So which one of these cars will I see at Turkey Run this year.Some days it's not even worth chewing thru the restraints !
I saw last night on fb about John. The world sure lost a great one. I'm going to miss his humor, advice, and perspective from another portion of the world. Rest in Peace Johnboy.
John Norton aka johnboy