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    Quote Originally Posted by roadster32 View Post
    Looks very interesting
    I hope so. Considering the exceptional work you do my best will not even come close to what you discard after deaming it a failure. Every time I check your thread I am amazed. And if you ever decide you don't need the talent in the tip of your pinkie, well send it abroad, I sure could use it.......

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    Obviously, I am going to like your new project, I love RPU's. Sounds like you have a good plan going and the plywood mocked up version looks about right. What I like about these is that there is a whole lot more room than the T's I am used to, both legwise and also in interior height and width.

    You mention the one Dan built (thank you ) the first version he did was based on little more than you have there. He did cut down a 29 Murray Fordor, but only ended up using the cowl and two front doors and he fabricated the rest. That is the body I am using now on my new project.

    I am anxious to see your progress updates, this will be a fun project to watch. BTW, if you need any ideas, I have some pictures from when he did his, and he has a ton of them I can get from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoldyouso View Post
    Obviously, I am going to like your new project, I love RPU's. Sounds like you have a good plan going and the plywood mocked up version looks about right. What I like about these is that there is a whole lot more room than the T's I am used to, both legwise and also in interior height and width.

    You mention the one Dan built (thank you ) the first version he did was based on little more than you have there. He did cut down a 29 Murray Fordor, but only ended up using the cowl and two front doors and he fabricated the rest. That is the body I am using now on my new project.

    I am anxious to see your progress updates, this will be a fun project to watch. BTW, if you need any ideas, I have some pictures from when he did his, and he has a ton of them I can get from him.

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    Thanks Don, new ideas are always welcome. And seeing the start of your new project helped me get off my rear and finally started on mine. Will keep following your build as well. Hope yours goes smoothly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlotraf33 View Post
    I hope so. Considering the exceptional work you do my best will not even come close to what you discard after deaming it a failure. Every time I check your thread I am amazed. And if you ever decide you don't need the talent in the tip of your pinkie, well send it abroad, I sure could use it.......
    Its aweful lonesome in the saddle since my horse died.

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    Good catch on the sides being too high for good proportion. That's the beauty of mocking up before committing to the final product.

    I don't think that 2" is quite going to get you there though. I'll post up a side view of a roadster body just to give you an idea of how deep you really need to go if you want to recreate the near perfect proportions of Henry's original design. It's what makes the '28/9 so popular even if people don't realize what makes it "look so right". Part of what you're doing here is going to be influenced by how you deal with the windshield. I would encourage you to do some mock up of that too before committing to metal. You don't have to reproduce the actual roadster windshield (though that's easily doable), but some channel material coming off the top of the cowl piece you've got would work too. Personally I would still trim down the base of where the stanchions mount just to visually "lighten" the bulk of the cowl, but it needs to work for you.........thus the suggestion to include w/s mock up at this stage. If doing some channel stock a slight to more aggressive slant back will be more pleasing than the oft mistaken job done of just straight up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter View Post
    Good catch on the sides being too high for good proportion. That's the beauty of mocking up before committing to the final product.

    I don't think that 2" is quite going to get you there though. I'll post up a side view of a roadster body just to give you an idea of how deep you really need to go if you want to recreate the near perfect proportions of Henry's original design. It's what makes the '28/9 so popular even if people don't realize what makes it "look so right". Part of what you're doing here is going to be influenced by how you deal with the windshield. I would encourage you to do some mock up of that too before committing to metal. You don't have to reproduce the actual roadster windshield (though that's easily doable), but some channel material coming off the top of the cowl piece you've got would work too. Personally I would still trim down the base of where the stanchions mount just to visually "lighten" the bulk of the cowl, but it needs to work for you.........thus the suggestion to include w/s mock up at this stage. If doing some channel stock a slight to more aggressive slant back will be more pleasing than the oft mistaken job done of just straight up.
    Thats what I was looking at this morning. I intend to move the pillars inward similar to the roadster. I have the closed pillars, he cut them off to ship the cowl and then the deal fell thru and I ended up the lucky recipant of it. I may not lower the sides quite as low as the roadster body, alot will have to do with how I blend in and relocate the pillars. I want them to lean back slightly, but not too agressive. And if you have the roadster handy that you posted the pics of. what is the measurement from door top to the line where the tank seperates from the cowl bottom? That would be a handy piece of info before I cut the ply down. I may not be able to go that low and look right unless I completly rework the piece that wraps over the cowl top below windshield. Looking at several, it looks like the closed cab is taller in this area than the roadster. And I don't want to try to recreate a roadster cowl. As some will tell me it's a poor copy, or bust my chops telling me it isn't a roadster. I think I have the look of the solution in my head, question is will it translate when I start working with the metal. Thanks again Bob
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    Probably the easiest dimension to transfer would be door hieght at the cowl. That's 24 1/4", which corresponds to the bottom of the stanchion too. But as you say, you don't have to exactly emulate that. The closed car cowl top at the upper portion of that cowl reveal is bulkier than the roadster, that's the part that throws most conversion off. Again, that can be reshaped to look more in unison with whatever new stanchion configuration is done, but the bulk needs to be thinned some visually if not literally.

    This angle should give you the best perspective of what I mean.....
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    Hey dlotraf33, heck you are doing just fine with the written word now and the pictures are excellent size and detailed. Now you will just have to give us your first name or nickname so that we can encourage you.
    I maybe a little crazy but it stops me going insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiplash23T View Post
    Hey dlotraf33, heck you are doing just fine with the written word now and the pictures are excellent size and detailed. Now you will just have to give us your first name or nickname so that we can encourage you.
    Thanks Whip, I thought of that earlier today. It's Charlie. For those who havent caught on my user name, which started as e-mail, is old fart spelled backwards.............. And thank you all, for the info and words of encouragement.............

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    Thanks Charlie for that and yes I answer to Whip most of the time but I have been called far worse at times.
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