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I have a 9" ford rear in my 40 ford p/u with 5.5 " pattern and a 4.5" lug pattern on the Mustang II front end. I want to carry only 1 spare. I don't want to use wheel adapters . Can the rear axle be re-lugged to a 4.5 pattern and if so than what can be done with the brake drums ? Can they also be re-patterned ? Or who sells drums with 4.5" pattern ? thanks for the inputs !
I have always done my own but Moser Engineering in Indiana dose what you want or any good machine shop
buy one wheel with a double bolt pattern------------
When pulling my leg, please pull the right one only, I want to be able to mash the gas harder !Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
Check Wheel Vintiques--------------
Wheelvintiques makes a wheel with both Ford/Chevy pattern 4.5/4.75 but I don't think they make one with both 4.5/5.5
4x5.5 is the F150 truck lug pattern. You can either buy new axles for the 9" in a 4.5" lug, or take your axles to a machine shop and have them re-drilled for a 4.5" pattern.
there was also a wheel years ago by I think ET Mags that used a uni? washer/spcer that was elongated to fit any bolt pattern----Never used any as we were sponsered by a wheel company
Of course it also depends on the wheels you have---do you want to buy a differant pair for the front or the back???
You can ship your axles to about any of the axle companies--Strange, Moser,Currie,etc---I would think that you will probably redo the rears as The front M2 hubs probably are pretty small to add a 5 1/2 pattern to
http://currieenterprises2.reachlocal...E.aspx?id=2449
4??? x 5.5" are you sure?? Don't you mean 5? Or am I all wet? Our 4X4 is 6 lugs... don't know the circle off hand tho'..Quote:
Originally Posted by rspears
DUH!! Yes, I meant 5x5.5". Sorry - fingers outran the mind...Quote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
Navy, I suggest you check wheel availability for the bolt circle you're thinking about before committing. The 5x5.5 is a truck size, while the 4.5" and 4.75" are much more common for aftermarket wheels. It will depend on what you're planning to run. Both Cragar and ET offered Uni-Lug wheels. My Cragar's are Uni-Lug, and had I known I could order a specific size vs the slots & washers I would definitely have done it. They are a royal pain in the butt to mount, as the shouldered lugs must all be started and hand tightened into the slots before spinning anything tight or else the wheel will bind on the lugs. They only provide 1/2" of adjustment - the standard is 4.25" to 4.75". You will not find a Uni-Lug that offers 4.5" to 5.5". Do yourself a favor and have your rear axles re-drilled, and either buy new drums or have them drilled, too if they're in excellent shape.
Send the drums along with the axles to Currie
WOW ! Now that's input that I can use ! I now remember those uni-lug wheels I had them on my 64 chevy.
Haven't pulled the drums yet so I think that's first to see if there worth it or just buy new ones. Thanks again for all the help !!!!!!
Yep, it will depend on your wheel choice. If, for instance, you're going with a stock looking steel wheel or would be willing to look for the right wheel design in the less common 5 1/2 pattern you could go to a 5 1/2 b.c. new front rotor (ECI and other hot rod brake folks have them). The cost of that would probably be cheaper than either shipping your axles back and forth or traveling around to find a competent machine shop "locally" plus whatever choice you make on the rear drums (which could be redrilled too depending on the design).
Hey Navy, just curious if you plan to use the late model Mustang wheels that were on it in the early pictures or go with something else.
If this is just to facilitate having one spare to fit both bolt circles, then just get a wheel that's 5X4 1/2 and a wheel adapter to make it fit 5X5 1/2..... I know you stated you don't want to use wheel adapters, but in the case of just having a spare along that you may or may not ever use and if you do would only be driven to the nearest facility to repair or replace the tire, why would it matter if an adapter was on the car for a few miles???? Or, do like many of us do, don't bother with a spare and have a roadside assistance account with someone and they come out and do the work for you?????
great and economical option there Dave :toocool:
Well, being the dumb old Norwegian that I am, I have to keep things pretty simple, Em!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MelloYello
hahaha, I've been working on the KISS principle for a long time myself
With bigs & littles running a spare just doesn't work, and besides where to put them? One of my rear tires won't even fit the trunk, and if I had a truck I wouldn't want a spare or two cluttering the bed all the time. I carry a big can of Slime "fix-a-flat" as a possible emergency inflation, or can call for help.
Most truck guys don't run big and littles--most are same or close to size front and rear.
A item to consider IF the fronts and rears are different sizes---a posi or traction lock rear vehicle will need the spare to be the same roll out as the normal rear because of the posi action----------
Currie lists redrilling 2 customer axles at $35
And----------for rodders who want to drive the country(non trailer queens) with big and littles or or more equal sized tires-----there are considerations in the build of what the trunk will be used for---things vying for the limited cubes are baggage, rumble seat, spare tire and what I don't like to see--a trunk mounted gas tank---however, a slime bottle is probably wiser choice than patch kit, spare inner tube, tire pump,hammer and tire irons that we used to carry-------oh, do you carry a jack that will lift your car safely?????????
'cept if you have nice wheels, a bottle of slime really screws them up....but it does get you rolling again.
And----------for rodders who want to drive the country(non trailer queens) with big and littles or or more equal sized tires-----there are considerations in the build of what the trunk will be used for---things vying for the limited cubes are baggage, rumble seat, spare tire and what I don't like to see--a trunk mounted gas tank---however, a slime bottle is probably wiser choice than patch kit, spare inner tube, tire pump,hammer and tire irons that we used to carry-------oh, do you carry a jack that will lift your car safely?????????[/QUOTE]
Just rolled in from Great Greybeards Adventure to LA Roadster Show. Have big and littles on a 40, carry one spare that is sized just between the two, would use it to limp to a decent town. Carried two jacks, full set of tools, water, tow strap, jumper cables, electrical repair items, fuel hose, fan belts, and a bunch of luggage, O2 bottles and walker for the wife. Did not have any problems but my items were used by several in the group to keep them going. If you live in the West/Southwest, towns can be a long way from your breakdown and cell service nonexistent for your AAA. You have to rely on yourself and the ones with you. Our trip had a great group of true Hot Rodders!!!
I have big and littles (14"/16") and NO spare - - - shows ya what group I belong in - - - but that will change later, along with a tool box, jack, lug wrench and ASSuntries
Nova has big and little but I run tubes and carry NO spare Just tow truck number
I use a can of fix a flat and one of those tiny 12 volt compressors, it's bailed me out a couple times in the daily driver too!!!
Oh and a cell phone.
In my experience almost everything other than bone stock is running some form of "bigs & littles" - not to the extreme of mine, but many, many today run a couple of inch drop in wheel size from rear to front, and rears that are wider by two to ten inches, and that includes trucks. I don't think I've seen much of anything with four wheels & tires matching at a show in a looooooooong time. As for carrying a jack, if you're not carrying a spare why carry a jack? Now for the Greybeards trip? Yeah, I'd probably carry more "stuff" just in case....
185/65R14 front 29x15.5x15 rear :LOL::LOL::LOL:
Well, being one of the trailer queen guys, I like my trailer, lots of room to carry whatever I want and maybe even bring a few goodies home if there's a swap meet or something like it nearby the gathering. I also enjoy having the extra room to take along friends and family, a grille and some charcoal, lawn chairs, etc, etc, etc. Don't be looking down your nose at trailer queens till you've tried it and realize that travelling with a toter and a good enclosed trailer is a very nice way to get there, also.....
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my kinda people :DQuote:
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Wasn't the original question about lug pattern???????talk about getting off in a side direction-----------------
But, it is sorta related
kinda like Bocephus says, Jerry, it's a Family Tradition.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
this was part of the original post
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Originally Posted by Navy7797
My lug pattern is the same front and rear just tire size is a little different
And who got us off in the weeds??Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
Talk about the pot callin' the kettle black!! :LOL::LOL::LOL: What a hoot!!:LOL::rolleyes::LOL::LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
What DID I do with that street sgin?!?!?!......... HMmmm...
:eek: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Kitty gotcha tongue?
well, I am surprised no one has commented about the traction lock rears------------
and the weeds deal was in my thread about velcro---------------
anyway---just settin here this evening waiting on call that grandson has arrived--he is late since Friday, they are going to induce labor tonight-----------
You Old Pirate!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
now there's something worth the hi-jack - - - - best to the little Mother - - - if this is your first one then get ready for the best gig in town, if not, then you already know how cool it is, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
now back to your regularly scheduled program
Planning on using the wheels for now, unless I win the lotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by randyr