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06-07-2004 09:40 AM #46
Screamer, i think that your Fords statement is a bit off. Nope, Wait, Waaay off! :PRight engine, Wrong Wheels
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06-07-2004 12:23 PM #47
Yeah, what you mean't to say is Chevy's rule, Fords are number one on the shit list! Haha.www.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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06-07-2004 02:16 PM #48
Chevy's have their place - as boat anchors!
No really, I got this jeep cheap becuase, well, the chevy 305 is banging - if it turns at all. it has oil, just no pressure.
in my garage is a 700R4..junk.
my friends' camaro, the 84 i am getting a replacement 305 from - it has a 305 in it because the factory engine, umm, died.
79 malibu..the v6 died. the 350 replacement died. the 305 replacement for that died.
70 bonneville. 455, died.
88 caddy sdn deville, v8, died.
74 lesabre, 350, died
91 roadmaster, died
the only living chevy i know of (among family and friends) is a 96 corsica, but it has only 40k on it.
72 ltd, 351c, lived
785 ltd, 400m, lived
85 escort, 1.9?, beat to hell and no maintenance, lived
63 ford, 289, run 12 miles with a seized oil pump, lived (used pump installed, drove it for 20k miles more)
74 pinto, 2.0L, snapped timing belt, changed belt, it lived
85 turbo t bird, 4 turbos, 1 engine, 230k living still
93 taurus, 162k, living still
79 lincoln, 400m 95k, lliving still
I don't know of a ford engine to have died amongst my friends and relatives.
Chevy's may be cheaper to work on, but you get what you pay for
There must be some reason GM is losing market share on new vehicles!
BTW, Ford and Chevy are BOTH better than any import.
and ANY car that isn't running sucks!Chris
Only the dead fish go with the flow.
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06-07-2004 04:31 PM #49
I agree.Fords are #1.......in the junk yards.....lol
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06-07-2004 05:46 PM #50
Well I had to "work" today, I took a Summer job so I could buy a crate moter even though I am retired. I just miss one day and you guys really open up the Ford/Chevy feud! I want to clear up one thing, it was at least a 5 foot pipe on the handle of the Craftsman 3/8" ratchet when it broke, so a 4 foot handle should be OK! Back in 1970 I bought a Dune buggy with an old '60 36 HP VW engine and I started to make it comfortable with a T-top and Big/Little whitewall tires on a gold metalflake body. Pretty soon I realized it needed a better motor BECAUSE the flywheel and the pressure plate just fell off! On the VW flat-4s there is only ONE NUT holding the flywheel and I swore to myself that on the next engine that nut would not come off. That is why I used the pipe. I do not remember whether the recommended torque was 210 ft. lb. or 210 m-kg, but it didn't matter because I did not have a torque wrench that went that high anyway, hence the pipe. Then I took the 3/8" ratchet to Sears, I think it was about 1978 and they did give me a kit to repair the ratchet, so they have been doing that for a long time. The parts were "dry" and easy to install, so I though it was a fair deal. The Ford guys broke my heart when they let the Duntov hemi heads go to Chrysler and then came out with the long water pump and short stroke on the 289. On the other hand what is the word on the street about the new Lightning Ford Pickup, it looks pretty quick to me. I am still looking forward to the best of both worlds with a light Ford roadster and a SBC engine. As far as using a ratchet for a hammer, I would never do that as long as I had a 12" Craftsman adjustable. How can we get this thread back on a rational track? Here's a question, how long will a SBC 383 live with the short rods from the 350, scuffin' along the side of the cylinders? Will it last for street use?
Best Wishes,
Semi-Retired Scientist/teen rodderLast edited by Don Shillady; 06-07-2004 at 06:12 PM.
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06-07-2004 05:52 PM #51
Yeah, I didn't realize this was the tools thread anymore. lol We switched the subject about 10 times already. Ok well back to the subject on tools.....www.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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06-07-2004 05:58 PM #52
Ford made tools, incluede thmein the model Ts i think. Most all motorcycles (maybe all?) come with some basic tools inthe kit, although i doubt that many owners would know what to do with them, or that the tools included would fix much.
i used to carrya toolbox in my car(s). they used to need it LOL. My Taurus is the first car i've owned with over 100k miles on it, and it is reliable. low maintenance too.
Damn, that reminds me...I was to change the oil in the Wife's van tonite. and yesterday. well. maybe tomorrow nite...
chrisChris
Only the dead fish go with the flow.
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06-07-2004 06:16 PM #53
Just one last note on Chevy-VS-Ford I am a chevy guy by nature but i also have a 66 t-bird i just build for a family member and a 67 stang i'm in the process of building for another family member and i will say this.
I honestly think that the life of the car is 99% dependant on the way the owner takes care of the car with maintance ...nuff said
Far as how long the 350 rods will last...forever,its a CHEVY! sorry couldn't resist
BGSomewhere out on Woordward ave. cruzin!
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06-07-2004 08:18 PM #54
Motorcycles come with tools? HEY! I Got Ripped! Anyway, Screamer, you have never owned a vehicle over 100K? Wow You suck. Seriously though, you must just be cursed to never own a GM vehicle. You have killed some pretty decent motors there. However, i dont see a Oldsmobile on your list. Always good. Maybe if you owned some tools, you would be able to keep a GM running!Right engine, Wrong Wheels
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06-07-2004 08:40 PM #55
Haaaaaaaahaha, but yeah about a motorcycle with tools.... some do come with them and others like dirt bikes and all don't. Talking about motorcycles.... some black dude a few weeks ago had some cruiser/street bike at the local gas station and he was trying to fix it because it was backfiring really loud and all and he was messing with the carb like he knew what he was doing and I was like holy shit what a dumb ass. Most likely it was the vavles not opening at the correct time because the cam and all was off timing. Thing was loud, then he just drove it off popping really loud and everyone was looking at him. It was pretty funny. Ok back on subject I guess.Last edited by FMXhellraiser; 06-07-2004 at 08:43 PM.
www.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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06-07-2004 09:19 PM #56
Haha, or F'ed over rebuilt Dodge. hehwww.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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06-07-2004 10:02 PM #57
haaahaha nice one. I got to agree though, some ford's are pretty damn nice looking (the body not engine).www.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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06-08-2004 08:32 AM #58
Originally posted by drg84
Motorcycles come with tools? HEY! I Got Ripped! Anyway, Screamer, you have never owned a vehicle over 100K? Wow You suck. Seriously though, you must just be cursed to never own a GM vehicle. You have killed some pretty decent motors there. However, i dont see a Oldsmobile on your list. Always good. Maybe if you owned some tools, you would be able to keep a GM running!
The list before contained vehicles owne by closefriends and relatives as well - the one friend is great at killling gm cars, but fords live under his ownership - so the maintentance and abuse 'scale' is balanced - he ignores them all.
BTW, oldmobile has gone the way of Edsel and DeSoto - the last car rolled off the assembly line in April, an Alero (a real car guy car that one - NOT )
vChris
Only the dead fish go with the flow.
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06-08-2004 10:51 AM #59
Originally posted by screamer63_1979
I owned a 74 buick apollo, 86 S10, 89 S10 (that GM bought back as a lemon!). I have also had several chrysler vehicles over the years.
The list before contained vehicles owne by closefriends and relatives as well - the one friend is great at killling gm cars, but fords live under his ownership - so the maintentance and abuse 'scale' is balanced - he ignores them all.
BTW, oldmobile has gone the way of Edsel and DeSoto - the last car rolled off the assembly line in April, an Alero (a real car guy car that one - NOT )
vwww.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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06-08-2004 12:11 PM #60
FMX
The Oldsmobile Division of General Motors no longer exists. And about the Alero, Have you ever looked at one? The typical GM jellybean look and the performance of a 70's VW Super Beetle.
Don't get me wrong. I used to like Olds, back when you could get a real Rocket V8 in one. I owned 2 new ones and two used ones in the 70's. The main reason I quit buying them was when They started putting small block Chevys in them. To me, it was no longer an Olds.Duane S
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