Thread: test results back from hydrogen

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Home manufacture of fuel is a federal crime.
Home made fuel on a public highway is a federal crime.
Home made non approved DOT fuel cell is a federal crime.
Tax evasion is a federal crime...you did calculate the total amount of hydrogen and paid your road tax ..right?
Tampering with a emmisions system is also a federal crime.
Warranty is voided by use of that .

Those are the good points........
Bad points .......
Intent to manufacture a bomb .......
Insurance liability ,you did inform your insurance company about the new bomb ,I mean fuel source ,and its unapproved non DOT certified container.....

Soo lets see here ..........
DOT violations
EPA violations
OSHA violations
FED violations

The interesting thing to me, is we have repeatedly asked for the design, or where Mooneye777 got his. He still has not responded with a purchase place or a homemade design, which means, none of his data is reputable, without confirmation by a second party. Mooneye, step up to the plate with the design or purchase place, until then this is just speculation and guess work. The picture you have posted only shows one hot lead on top, no ground visable, and no comment on whats inside besides H2O. If you provide details for others, then we can all build this miracle device, reap the benefits of it's simplicity, and make this world a happier place. Without the facts, welll..... Thanks, Steve.

There is an easy way to test the viability of the system:

If the fruit jar bong actually produces hydrogen, you should be able to setup a system on the work bench using a 12VDC source (battery charger). The outlet of the bong...er jar will be hydrogen rich if you are a believer. Hydrogen burns clear (since there is no carbon) so watch out.... light the output pipe and it should sustain a flame OR explode...one or the other. Remember in high school chemistry when you made a test tube full of hydrogen and lit it? It "barked" when it exploded.

If there is no flame, then you have proved that B.S. doesnt burn.

Originally Posted by robot

There is an easy way to test the viability of the system:

If the fruit jar bong actually produces hydrogen, you should be able to setup a system on the work bench using a 12VDC source (battery charger). The outlet of the bong...er jar will be hydrogen rich if you are a believer. Hydrogen burns clear (since there is no carbon) so watch out.... light the output pipe and it should sustain a flame OR explode...one or the other. Remember in high school chemistry when you made a test tube full of hydrogen and lit it? It "barked" when it exploded.

If there is no flame, then you have proved that B.S. doesnt burn.

I remember in High School chemistry that when we made the first test tube with hydrogen in it (and oxygen) and lite it, it "Barked" but the second tube had was FULL of Hydrogen and it would not lite.......

Originally Posted by stovens

The interesting thing to me, is we have repeatedly asked for the design, or where Mooneye777 got his. He still has not responded with a purchase place or a homemade design, which means, none of his data is reputable, without confirmation by a second party. Mooneye, step up to the plate with the design or purchase place, until then this is just speculation and guess work. The picture you have posted only shows one hot lead on top, no ground visable, and no comment on whats inside besides H2O. If you provide details for others, then we can all build this miracle device, reap the benefits of it's simplicity, and make this world a happier place. Without the facts, welll..... Thanks, Steve.

Mooneye did produce the source of the plans in his fisrt post, and he also said he will give us the plans as soon as he could get a diagram drawn up. If you search google or youtube you will find thousands of links ,pics etc.

He is not getting rich off this, so why would he lie about it? Im no scienist, but his word is enough for me, if he said it gained mpg, then im willing to try it! There`s millions of theories that science cannot explain, maybe this is one of them.

Originally Posted by stovens

The interesting thing to me, is we have repeatedly asked for the design, or where Mooneye777 got his. He still has not responded with a purchase place or a homemade design, which means, none of his data is reputable, without confirmation by a second party. Mooneye, step up to the plate with the design or purchase place, until then this is just speculation and guess work. The picture you have posted only shows one hot lead on top, no ground visable, and no comment on whats inside besides H2O. If you provide details for others, then we can all build this miracle device, reap the benefits of it's simplicity, and make this world a happier place. Without the facts, welll..... Thanks, Steve.

I know I know, Im slow. Ive got a dang full time job they make me work at, Ive got a needy Wife with a mile long honey-to-do-list, A 13 year old child and 2 grand kids that need my attention, Plus a top fuel Harley that needs my love and wrenches, and a big block mustang that I am getting ready to start for the 1st time this spring today. Ive been busy with all lifes crud lately.

My rerply is ...Who would have thought a 14 year old kid would be charged with terrorism from pulling a fire alarm in school......
A personal friend ..who drinks too much, told the police after they arrested him for intoxication .....................His words..." I drive a tow truck and I should just run yer but over next time I see you ....That was a terrorist threat and he was charged with a terrorist threat .

I they wanna bust ya , That hydrogen unit definatly has the potential to be used as a exsplosive device......IED under the hood.
I dont think it will come to that ,but just tryin to elaborate on what could possibly happen if the right circumstances happen.
Tax evasion is the most real possibility.....

Ron Paul for pres!!!!! and I am a gun totin lead spraying machine guns for everyone type of guy,no tree huggin cali non sense for me..

Originally Posted by mooneye777

I know I know, Im slow. Ive got a dang full time job they make me work at, Ive got a needy Wife with a mile long honey-to-do-list, A 13 year old child and 2 grand kids that need my attention, Plus a top fuel Harley that needs my love and wrenches, and a big block mustang that I am getting ready to start for the 1st time this spring today. Ive been busy with all lifes crud lately.

Thanks Mooneye777! I hear yah. I've made little progress on my projects due to my large honey do list, and work which requires continuing education units!

Yep, your from the Republic of California!

Originally Posted by shawnlee28

Home manufacture of fuel is a federal crime.
Home made fuel on a public highway is a federal crime.
Home made non approved DOT fuel cell is a federal crime.
Tax evasion is a federal crime...you did calculate the total amount of hydrogen and paid your road tax ..right?
Tampering with a emmisions system is also a federal crime.
Warranty is voided by use of that .

Those are the good points........
Bad points .......
Intent to manufacture a bomb .......
Insurance liability ,you did inform your insurance company about the new bomb ,I mean fuel source ,and its unapproved non DOT certified container.....

Soo lets see here ..........
DOT violations
EPA violations
OSHA violations
FED violations

Originally Posted by mooneye777

The results are in on the hydrogen gas generator. . This is not a pointing finger, swearing up and down it will not work, telling people they are a fool for believing it would work. Even thougjh you have nothing to base your results on thread. These are actual results compiled from not a 3rd or 4th party, uncle Jeds cousins nieghbors nieghbors brother either. But an actual individual related to this board. You can believe it or not I do not care, but for thiose of us that still believe that someone can still come up with a device that can help in improving fuel mileage, then here it is.

Also keep in mind that I have no monitary gain whatsoever from this, im just a guy living from paycheck to paycheck. Feeling a huge strain from the prices of everything skyrocketing mainly because of climbing fuel costs, and possibly help some other poor struggling soul. This is not the answer only a little help. With all the whinning out of the way here are the results.

The devise was ran on a 4 banger saturn and went from 22 mpg to 36 mpg. It was ran on a Hyundai santa fe. 2 full tanks of fuel and 600 miles later (just yesterday), It went from 21 mpg to a new 32 mpg. The ford ranger is still under test as well as the ford f-150. But I will post them when recieved. It is found that the mass air sensor placement on the vehicle plays a part in fuel ratings. That is still under testing at this time. Keep in mind the internal effects of the engine with proloned use is still a mystery. But hey someone has to try something different, just trying to help out not argue!

This is the first post. I see no source of plans. I do not question Mooneyes integrety, but would like to see plans, or be provided with info as to where to get the plans he used, to be able to try this myself. Without reproducible results it can't be considered scientific fact. Let Mooneye speak for himself, this is not, I repeat NOT a personal attack. By the way Denny, glad you decided to rejoin us.
PS I never asked for anything free, just a source to buy for myself.
Also if you are quoting a different thread the only other thread I have read on this subject had a bell glass jar kit shown as the source which is not what has been represented by photographs we have been shown.

We are still waiting, still no source or design, so it's not repeatable, until someone else substanciates it. As to needing permission to post, there are links all over this site to products and deals. It's what we do, help eachother out. If I told you I have a personal cure to lowering cholesterol by 50%, and told you I've been taking Omega three fatty acids to do it, you would still not be able to repeat my results unless you knew my base cholesterol, my daily dose of Omega 3 fatty acids, and what my results were after what perscribed amount of time, not to mention my diet, exercise, etc. It's about facts, help and forthrightness.
Let Mooneye respond when he is ready, I can wait. I would love to benefit from 15-20mpg gas improvement. For those who say google it, I say there is a web site out there for everyone, that will provide you with want you want to hear. It doesn't mean the sites are factual or true, even if they contain partial truths. I get this at work all the time, where a patient says well I read on the internet......

Originally Posted by stovens

We are still waiting, still no source or design, so it's not repeatable, until someone else substanciates it. As to needing permission to post, there are links all over this site to products and deals. It's what we do, help eachother out. If I told you I have a personal cure to lowering cholesterol by 50%, and told you I've been taking Omega three fatty acids to do it, you would still not be able to repeat my results unless you knew my base cholesterol, my daily dose of Omega 3 fatty acids, and what my results were after what perscribed amount of time, not to mention my diet, exercise, etc. It's about facts, help and forthrightness.
Let Mooneye respond when he is ready, I can wait. I would love to benefit from 15-20mpg gas improvement. For those who say google it, I say there is a web site out there for everyone, that will provide you with want you want to hear. It doesn't mean the sites are factual or true, even if they contain partial truths. I get this at work all the time, where a patient says well I read on the internet......

Like I said before, Bob Boyce made all this public a long time ago. There is no need for you to buy 'plans'. Google Bob Boyce, do some reading, and off you go. And hurry before the Hydrogen Police get you.

Kitz

Hey I take that Fish oil to Stovens COOL

I know who he's voting for . Hey Shawnlee 28 what do you think about the NRA ?

ron paul !