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Maybe it is against the law, but to anybody thinknig about doing it I'd like to say that I personally believe the government, gas companies and auto manufacturers are all in bed together and that our cars are capable of much better gas milage if there wasn't so much profit in it.

I'm interested in the plans, if I can bump my car from 13-14 mpg up to 25mpg it's totally worth having to take the stuff off every two years to pass smog.

I'd be really interested in seeing what it does to the big engines putting out more horsepower, as far as increasing mileage without hurting horsepower or damaging the engine. I don't suppose anybody with a dyno could give this setup a test for us? maybe write in to powerblock's horsepower show?

Thanks for researching it.

Red

Sounds good Mooneye!

Originally Posted by Dago Red

Maybe it is against the law, but to anybody thinknig about doing it I'd like to say that I personally believe the government, gas companies and auto manufacturers are all in bed together and that our cars are capable of much better gas milage if there wasn't so much profit in it.



Thanks for researching it.

Red

I agree !!!

Also Dont worry about what happens in cali it will fall off into the water soon. Good job, but don't know if I would be posting this If I was you. Things need to get patents and just opens up the doors for lawsuits and such. Just my opinion though.

Originally Posted by Dago Red

Maybe it is against the law, but to anybody thinknig about doing it I'd like to say that I personally believe the government, gas companies and auto manufacturers are all in bed together and that our cars are capable of much better gas milage if there wasn't so much profit in it.

I'm interested in the plans, if I can bump my car from 13-14 mpg up to 25mpg it's totally worth having to take the stuff off every two years to pass smog.

I'd be really interested in seeing what it does to the big engines putting out more horsepower, as far as increasing mileage without hurting horsepower or damaging the engine. I don't suppose anybody with a dyno could give this setup a test for us? maybe write in to powerblock's horsepower show?

Thanks for researching it.

Red

Fractioning water using electrolyses is neither breaking the law nor is it patentable anymore. Until congress passes a law outlawing water in any case. I would like to make a couple points about all this;

1) Very little if any of this stuff is patentable thanks in no small part to a fellow named Bob Boyce. What may be patentable are oscillators and eltronics needed to optimize performance of cells and ECU's in modern cars.
2) If you try to just puff HHO down a newer car with an ECU and SFI it is likely to burn more fuel. You must retune the ECU especially in the areas of the oxygen sensor for this to work right. Meanwhile carbed cars should see immediate results.
3) What HHO really does as an additive is improve combustion efficiency. The argument that that it 'uses more energy than it creates' is true only for the fractioning process itself. One needs to carry the physics process through all the way to see benefits. I believe it can work and save you money.
4) The better HHO systems seem to use as many as 6-7 cells in series to maximize operating efficiency
5) It takes 6-7 large cells or a single good sized high voltage cell to operate a V8 entirely on HHO. But now the timing must be severely retarded (say from 8-10 BTDC to 8-10 ATDC) for it to work so earlier V8's with carbs and older adjustable ignitions are better here.
6) Running just HHO will lead to rusted steel components throughout and very likely burned valves as fuel is normally used to manage those temps
7) HHO is extremely dangerous stuff. Unlike gasoline it will not burn, it explodes as hydrogen is allready completely broken down. I think many people will be hurt with many occurences of hearing damage due to the explosions it can create personally.

Well, there you go, some food for thought.

Kitz

Shawnlee28 wrote:

Just remember ,its a Federal crime to manufacture fuel and not pay taxes ,its also a federal law to burn non taxed fuel on a public highway .....

Perhaps, but at this point I say screw 'em. Been paying taxes for 46 years and have watched the feds waste it on all kinds of bullshit. From welfare here to welfare in foreign lands where they don't give a flying fish about us.

I'm not much of a risk taker, but this might be the time to get involved with something progressive. Decreasing my gas use and increasing my mpg without resorting to riding a donkey to work could figure into my life plans.

Keep the good news and data coming Mooneye!