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My ride.

Streetrodman

Just finished this truck FEb 01, 2009....5 days ago.

took it to the car show in St Paul MN....about 45 miles from my home town of Osceola WI.

Originally Posted by streetrodman

My ride.

Streetrodman

You might consider a few changes.Put your spring pack UNDER your perch and your frame will be sitting on a nice flat sturdy surface , instead of hanging on 4 nuts . Doing this will allow you to have your spring hangers pointing down. Your frame should just about stay at the same height. Shocks also work best with a 5-25 degree angle, I had my shocks on a spindley bracket like you do and a good bump bent one of them . Also is your panhard bar hidden from view . I'm not an expert but there are somethings that just have to go a certain way ti operate correctly and safley. LFE

Originally Posted by luckyfasteddie

You might consider a few changes.Put your spring pack UNDER your perch and your frame will be sitting on a nice flat sturdy surface , instead of hanging on 4 nuts . Doing this will allow you to have your spring hangers pointing down. Your frame should just about stay at the same height. Shocks also work best with a 5-25 degree angle, I had my shocks on a spindley bracket like you do and a good bump bent one of them . Also is your panhard bar hidden from view . I'm not an expert but there are somethings that just have to go a certain way ti operate correctly and safley. LFE

I agree with you about the spring perch positioning and shock mounts. As far as the panhard bar, I don't run one on the front of my car either and have never had a lick of problems. I know several guys that don't have one on the front... Why do you think one is required?

Originally Posted by ChopTopJimmy

I agree with you about the spring perch positioning and shock mounts. As far as the panhard bar, I don't run one on the front of my car either and have never had a lick of problems. I know several guys that don't have one on the front... Why do you think one is required?

Here is what Speedway has to say:There is some controversy surrounding the use of a Panhard rod on cross spring drop axle suspension systems . While there are many hotrods running around without one most of the top chassis builders feel that it is a necessary part of a front suspension , especially with a 4 bar . With an original buggy spring and wishbone setup , the triangle shape of the wishbone limited side to side motion .Even a split wishbone or radius rod front end with the axle mounting points wider than the frame mounting points provides some measure of triangulation to help control side motion . By its design the four-bar front end is engineered to allow the front suspension to travel freely ( thus providing better ride quality and handling characteristics ) but it can not control side to side motion . The problem is compounded by cross- steering , as any side to side movement WILL cause bump steer . A Panhard bar should be considered mandatory on all four-bar systems and recommended on all cross steer systems . While building my ride every rod I looked at had one , so I put one on mine. LFE

Originally Posted by luckyfasteddie

Here is what Speedway has to say:There is some controversy surrounding the use of a Panhard rod on cross spring drop axle suspension systems . While there are many hotrods running around without one most of the top chassis builders feel that it is a necessary part of a front suspension , especially with a 4 bar . With an original buggy spring and wishbone setup , the triangle shape of the wishbone limited side to side motion .Even a split wishbone or radius rod front end with the axle mounting points wider than the frame mounting points provides some measure of triangulation to help control side motion . By its design the four-bar front end is engineered to allow the front suspension to travel freely ( thus providing better ride quality and handling characteristics ) but it can not control side to side motion . The problem is compounded by cross- steering , as any side to side movement WILL cause bump steer . A Panhard bar should be considered mandatory on all four-bar systems and recommended on all cross steer systems . While building my ride every rod I looked at had one , so I put one on mine. LFE

Read part of your quote from Speedway; While there are many hotrods running around without one MOST of the top chassis builders feel that it is a necessary part of a front suspension. That says most, not all. I've never had a problem with Bumpsteer and I'm sure plenty of others haven't also. That's why there are many Hotrods running around Without one. CTJ

What type of front end are you running ?

Originally Posted by luckyfasteddie

What type of front end are you running ?

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Dropped I-beam w/4 bar, no bumpsteer ever...