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    What is a good strong body filler? I am about to fit my new roof to my 29 and finish the body work, I want a good filler that isn't going to crack or chip away... as I am working on the roof of the car there are 3 different fillers... a grey , a yellow, and a green.... any suggestions would be appriciated

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    less filler the better i allways work the steel as good as i could get it with hammers and dollies finsh it with a slap file .were i welded i allways used a ground glass filler like marglass. durglass . there is metal ALUM base filler but they do not work any better if you use them use it all the way to finsh some filler do not stick to them very good like all metal . and the old ppg stuff alum a lead . when you get your glass filler work to a form .i finsh with a good filler the glass filler hold up very good and fillers stick very good to them
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    Yuppers on the fillers with fiberglass.... The Evercoat rep sez they have better adhesion, plus about twice as strong as regular filler. Makes a great base and finishes off smooth, too. A bit tougher on the sanding, but well worth the extra work IMO....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    Yuppers on the fillers with fiberglass.... The Evercoat rep sez they have better adhesion, plus about twice as strong as regular filler. Makes a great base and finishes off smooth, too. A bit tougher on the sanding, but well worth the extra work IMO....
    back in the day as the kids say we work the glass filler to fair then got out the feather fill
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    Bought a 73 mavrick some years ago,made the mistake of removing the vinal top.
    Looked like some one went down the roof with a meat clever.
    It had holes and rust all the way through it.
    I treated the metal about three times then sand it down.
    I put duraglass on it and smoothed it out.
    After that I gave it to a friend and he sat it under a tree for almost three years.
    The rust never came back and the duraglass never poped out like you see on alot of cars.
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    can I use only duraglass? or do I need to use another filler on top of it?? can I use it for small dings, and shaping areas that need a small bit of work?

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    You can, but as Pat suggested a final topcoat with the non glass filler or even one of the two part glazes.... Or, Evercoat still makes featherfill. Just find an old paint gun with at least a 2.0 tip, spray it on and start blocking.... I still use it, probably showing my age but I stick with what works for me......
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    yes you can go to a filler like platinum or rage i used glass filler all the way thru just to be a hard head and we used to lead and work out the metal out with no filler at all
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    Just for the record, regular polyester fillers today are far superior to what was out there30 years ago. If filler cracks now, it is because it was not used correctly. I haven't had filler fail in about 40 years, and I use it on almost every job, and guarantee it for as long as they own it. Today I use Evercoat products, though I also like Marson fillers.

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    hell 30 year ago it was still damn goodthere still some blue moon body filler stuck on my moms drive way that gone thru mich winters for 30 years and still holding
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT View Post
    Just for the record, regular polyester fillers today are far superior to what was out there30 years ago. If filler cracks now, it is because it was not used correctly. I haven't had filler fail in about 40 years, and I use it on almost every job, and guarantee it for as long as they own it. Today I use Evercoat products, though I also like Marson fillers.

    I agree on the Evercoat products!!!! I had a few product questions and the rep came to the shop and spent the whole day!!!! Heck of a nice guy and very, very knowledgeable on body work. He's stopped by about once a month since, and it's certainly not because we use a lot of product, I think he's just genuinely interested in seeing his products used correctly and taking care of questions and concerns..... Kind of unusual these days...Most reps come in and want to sell you the "trick of the month" stuff, when you say no thanks, they leave!!!! Genuine customer service, kind of unusual these days!!!!!!!!
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    i used alot of both evercoat and marson i like them both they both do a good job i work at 3 to 4 shops in a week they all used marson or ever coat i could make both of them work fine
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    I like Rage Gold for filler. I hear mixed comments on glass filler or kitty hair (Tiger Hair). Some say it gives problems but I myself never experienced a problem with it. Again I use Rage Gold but I dont use much filler when doing cars so I dont need high build up. For glaze I use Evercoat glazes or Dolphin glaze is cheap and great stuff that will lay out and fill in any pin holes or imperfections. You have to find what works best for you though because again, paint and body work are all based on oppinions. Every body man and painter will tell you something different 90% of the time. I know some that hate Rage Gold and prefer cheaper stuff and I know some who use Metal 2 Metal all the time.
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    When I reworked my roof seam last summer, I welded where I could, filled the small seam that was left with a thin coat metal to metal, and then toped it with a glass coat which worked great and is hard as hell to sand by hand but worth it like said above. No problems yet! The glass stuff is really impressive, and like said above Evercoat products are a world above the old Bondo stuff from the 70"s!
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    okay I have gotten a lot of opinions , and that is exactly what I am looking for. so I thank all of you for your suggestions and comments....so what I gather from this is use a metal to metal or a short hair fiberglass filler then a "evercoat skim" coat? am I correct?? I just want this to turn out right... I am a perfectionest so to say and I want things right and to last....so once again thankyou and am I on the right track with the metal to metal or fiberglass with a skim coat after??

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    simon

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