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My pingin' and dingin' hammers and dollies sure don't seem to work as well as they did 20 years ago....suppose it's a warranty issue???????

Originally Posted by FMXhellraiser

Pat we all know you hand hammer your metal so smooth that you don't need to stinking filler!

nope not now more grass hopper but if you talk to anyone that work with me before my arms fell off and my back would not let me hang steel and hold out a buffer . i had to pay the wash rack boy to wheel out my paint jobs. i left a job i loved very much.. but this old dog still has some teethnow i just bore and hone out engines. EZ on the back but still a pain in the ass at times

Well I wish I could machine engines. That is something I want to learn a lot more about is building and machining engines but it's like interior work, it's hard to find someone that will teach you. Most machine shops are there to work and make money not sit around and teach people and correct major errors from the new guys and I understand.

well the machines are $$ .i made WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more money doing frame. paint. and body. work nice thing is i can somewhat breath thru my nose now

Yeah I understand. I do paint and body work on the side now and mostly just for myself. I am done with doing body work for a living, it's not worth it to me unless you own your own shop and have someone else doing the work. Everyone I know that does body work retire and dont have much and have very bad health issues. I personally know a few guys who have died from it from bad lungs, etc even wearing a respirator. I have pretty much quit the whole restoration work and just work on my own cars and friends cars. I do do detailing though and it's very relaxing for me, I am making more money much quicker and there is always repeat work. I am not talking about washing cars with a bucket and soap either, I am talking about steam cleaning interiors, bumper repairs, scratch repair, etc. I enjoy it for now...

back 20 years ago i had or still do harding of the bronchial / lung tubes . that i lived with but started to get colds i could not shake. guys that had been in it abit longer them me i would ask them if they had the same thing going on? nope.. but both did get sick and now not doing it full time any more most guys i know now are not painting any more. as soon has you get really good at it you get to old or sick to do it any more full time . i have been sick from the two part paints. when i get home i could feel the blood pump thru my arms and my lugs my heart was jumping .if got a good shot may ears would burn my lungs would fill up .a bad trip

Wow man, that is some Cheech and Chong stuff there Pat. Toke, toke it up man! Yeah man, light it up lets get chinese eyes. haha My favorite movie, I know every line of ever C&C movie.
I will say this, I only did it for about 5 years and 3 years was every day painting and sanding non stop (not half as long as some of you but still) and I would come home at the end of those 5 years with my nose bleeding all the time. Also I noticed my sense of smell is GONE. I believe it was the paint thinner and cleaning of parts and guns closed up in the mixing room because I can hardly smell paint thinner or gas anymore and every time I smell something it doesn't smell the same to me as everyone else. Some good smelling things smell bad to me or like something else. Also affects my sense of taste and my breathing is not so great. At one point I would hack up crap and it would have the color I sprayed that day or sanded. I wore a respirator most of the time but in the summer I would take it off because I wear glasses and it eventually fogged them up and my sweat running down my face would drive me nuts with filler dust sticking to me and itchy.

no it was not like that it was like your going to die that bad trip the kind you do not come back from yes did it full time well over 5 years like 25+ the stuff builds up in your body i was just on the floor not in the booth ... you had to wear a mask or should there was 4 to 5 guys humping to make the coin. it was like the shoot out it the ok corral. then i would go to my shop and shoot a car or go shoot a air plane or go to my buddys shop hang out and breath more of the stuff .i was in it 12 hours a day EZ if i was not painting or doing body work i was at the bar or street racing

I just jumped in here a little late on the question at hand, but me and my cousin were layin some paint on a 57 wagon that the fella just couldn't get straight. On the roof (and there was alot of roof!), the existing rust pits kept showing back up in his paint about every 2 yrs. after he got it painted (this was his 3rd shot.) We actually worked the roof a tad more and coated it in POR 15, then a thin layer of Rage Gold, and finished. 6 yrs. later and multiple car show trophies later, he couldn't be happier. Not one sign of the pits or shrinking in the whole roof line.

Originally Posted by 71ironhead

I just jumped in here a little late on the question at hand, but me and my cousin were layin some paint on a 57 wagon that the fella just couldn't get straight. On the roof (and there was alot of roof!), the existing rust pits kept showing back up in his paint about every 2 yrs. after he got it painted (this was his 3rd shot.) We actually worked the roof a tad more and coated it in POR 15, then a thin layer of Rage Gold, and finished. 6 yrs. later and multiple car show trophies later, he couldn't be happier. Not one sign of the pits or shrinking in the whole roof line.

Repairing and block sanding the roof of a rust spotted wagon should qualify as doing your time in purgatory, Ironhead!!!!!

It was definitely a task, Dave! I just take pride in knowing it was us that finally stopped the problem, not sure why the other fellas that tried didn't get it, unless he took it to a collision shop or insurance repair place. Me and my cousin worked out of his garage for years, now it's just me doing it in my garage on the side, but I'm more inclined to take a paintjob to a guy in his garage that is going to spend every free moment on it and take a few months and do a good job than to take it to a collision shop that'll give it back in 2 days! Always trust a painter that learned from shadowing an oldtimer more than someone who says they have a "degree" in painting, not saying they ain't good, just don't think they love the cars as much.

I have been using U-Pol products like Fiber-lite(long short strand hybrid glass)....Lightweight Gold(similar to Rage Gold but half the price) and Dolphin glaze.I have been very happy with these products for the price.