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Just got off the phone with Primo. They're mocking up some wheel design ideas and a price for super skinny's up front and bigs in the rear in a salt flat slotted design similar to the Billet Specialties LoBecks. He mentioned the price shouldnt be much higher than what I was looking at for the Road King. Probably have more in wheels than most of the rest of truck but it's the look I'm dying for. I really wanted to mix things up with 20x15's in the rear for a pro street look but I fear Mickey Thompson stopping that line of tires and then I'd really be stuck. So I'll stick with the 20x10's and the biscuit cutters. It'll be a weekend warrior at best so I'm not so worried about a lot of use. Also spoke to Holley today, going backwards on the LS. Going back carberated. Midrise 2x4 intake with a pair of 660 center squirts.

Was going to go with the cantilever suicide front but I may ditch the air ride for spring behind axle so I can use one of the three solid axles I already have.

Dave, you talked me out of the Winters quick change. Instead I'm going with their aluminum housing 9" in. Price is cheaper than if I started from scratch with a FAB 9 which I really don't think will look as good out in the open. By the time I pay for the wheels I may end up going with a buddies 9" to help keep some money in the bank. My wife is about to skin me already but is still supportive. Lols.

Can't wait till spring.

David

Originally Posted by Stovebolter

Dave, you talked me out of the Winters quick change. Instead I'm going with their aluminum housing 9" in. Price is cheaper than if I started from scratch with a FAB 9 which I really don't think will look as good out in the open. By the time I pay for the wheels I may end up going with a buddies 9" to help keep some money in the bank. My wife is about to skin me already but is still supportive. Lols.

Can't wait till spring.

David

Did you ask the Winters tech how much power the aluminum center 9" can take and live??? I keep looking at the aluminum center with the black paint in their website, don't necessarily like the black, but with the aluminum smoothed a bit and powder coated a nice color might be just the ticket under my '57......

Dave,

I honestly cannot remember but Charles knew I had projected desire for 600 hp. I plan to stroke an LSX block to 427 cu in and run the LS3 rectangular port heads. Surprisingly the Championship quick change rear wasnt but $200 more than the 9" and Charles suggested asphalt circle track cars with up to 900 hp were using them. I imagine the difference (why you wouldn't want them in a drag car) is because their already under power where a drag car is dealing hard launches in the first 60'? Call Charles up. He's a really nice fella. The price he quoted was for the 9" on page 17 of their catalog (available online) in as cast finish, powder coat black (additional $71), polished and machined ( additional $120) , complete hub to hub with center section and their trac posi less axles. The 31 spline axles additional $375. Man that is not a bad price for a rear that looks that nice. I was and still am really impressed. I've been putting off calling them for two years because I really figured they were much higher.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Did you ask the Winters tech how much power the aluminum center 9" can take and live??? I keep looking at the aluminum center with the black paint in their website, don't necessarily like the black, but with the aluminum smoothed a bit and powder coated a nice color might be just the ticket under my '57......

I've ran a couple quickies on the street, they're ok till you get tires that hook, then the case lets loose, usually at the pinion bearings on the back of the case. When we ran the dirt late model had a Winters quickie in it, as well as front hubs and a Falcon transmission, all if it held up great. The only thing I don't like on their 9" stuff is that they don't have the thru-bolt bearing mounts for the 3rd member...

But I sure do like that aluminum case for the rear end housing, + it's a bunch lighter then a stock 9", and right there with a fabricated moly housing...I suppose you could put 'moly tubes on their housing center and cut a bit more unsprung weight, huh?

Kanaka,

WE need pics, pics and more pics.

Jack.

I don't know just where this conversation got going between the 9 and the quick change, but as I read it seems to be centered around weight???

Strange has a redesigned and lightened 9 in iron center housing that I think he said they took 7 lbs off---

I have ran q-change under fuel cars for the purpose of lowering height of funny car and only issue was occasionally breaking the rear change gears-

In our rear engined dragster, I used a franklin center, Halibrand 3 inch axle, only one brake disc but with 2 calipers and Nance magnesiam side plates--broke the thrust side plate, built a billet 7079 alum one(was a bit heavier then) problem with that set up was with only one brake disc the heat from the brake was enough to loosen the splined hub on that side---and after breaking a set of change gears in a final somewhere--changed to ford 9 inch-

We ran the 4.86 ring and pinion because the ring gear was thicker and stronger than the 4.11--never had a ring and pinion problem---

Oh yeah!!! I remember a picture you posted with the wheels way up and the quickie showing, Jerry!!!! Guess the last quickie problem I had in a street car was similar, broke the quick change gears about 60 miles from home.....

I was looking at the Strange Housing, too. They also added a lighter set of brakes for the rear now too. Winters sez that their aluminum center for the 9" housing is 15lbs. lighter then a steel housing....thinking maybe the ideal way would be to use the Winter's aluminum center for the housing, then a pair of 3" thin wall 'moly tubes.... Should be strong and light, even gave some thought to going to a set of floater ends and hubs with the 31 spline axles?????? Never did brake a hub on a floater unless it was from getting into a wall or another car....

I got the Strange floater hubs on my pro stock chassis---used the 5 1/2x 5 bolt circle--don't even have to jack it up to change rears----also have a aluminum center(don't remember if it is Strange or Mark wILLIAMS) IT HAS THRU BOLTS FOR THE CARRIER BEARIBGS sorry about caps)---I do prefer the nogular iron housings though for drag racing as nothing then lets me down--35 spline gun drilled axles----

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

I got the Strange floater hubs on my pro stock chassis---used the 5 1/2x 5 bolt circle--don't even have to jack it up to change rears----also have a aluminum center(don't remember if it is Strange or Mark wILLIAMS) IT HAS THRU BOLTS FOR THE CARRIER BEARIBGS sorry about caps)---I do prefer the nogular iron housings though for drag racing as nothing then lets me down--35 spline gun drilled axles----

Jerry & David, I see Winters and Strange now also offer aluminum hubs for their floaters..think they'd work out ok for the '57 being a street/road course car, or better to stick with the steel units?????

Best thing about the floaters is the gear change without removing the tires. The thru bolt carrier is way stronger, IMO--We've got over 200 runs on the Comet (only a high 9 car) and absolutely no problems. Also, I like to do a bit of corner carving, maybe even an open track day or two at a road course, and the floaters are much stronger for that then a flanged axle..

Dave--if you still don't have the part for your furnace---JohnstoneSupply or Grainger----both big suppiers of HVAC stuff---and also Dreisilker.com

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Dave--if you still don't have the part for your furnace---JohnstoneSupply or Grainger----both big suppiers of HVAC stuff---and also Dreisilker.com

It's some sort of weird motor that turns the wrong way, can't just reverse it cuz it has to send a signal to a pressure switch to make the furnace light.... Johnstone didn't even stock it!!! Hopefully it will arrive yet this afternoon on the Big Brown Truck, going nuts sitting in the house all day!!!!!!

Hey OJ, are you doing any classes at your shop this winter? I didn't see any posts on here so I was going to check the other forum, but saw you pop in here.

35Ford I keep loosing your build link !! geez these computers need reformatted every now and then .

Originally Posted by bluestang67

35Ford I keep loosing your build link !! geez these computers need reformatted every now and then .

you're not missing much Bobby..I have a link that I haven't updated in a year or more! it's part laziness and part just haven't done much of anything on it at all or worth showing!