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Jack, I understand Baja racers use as many as three under frame fan driven coolers which are readily available in several sizes if you can find a place under the car. Such coolers can be used for trans fluid or engine coolant. The problem is that the drive shaft and mufflers don't give much room but maybe behind the rear pumpkin under the rear apron there is room for a remote cooler using long hoses. The fan makes up for the lack of a direct air stream. Of course some sort of screen would have to protect the cooler fins. I already have a few rock dings on my oblique under-fender set up.

For 36 Sedan: now that my car is back in my garage and the set up forced on it does seem to work I just have to forget the whole affair except not to go back to that shop again. The problem with the Sherriff is that the mechanic doing the work is a part time Deputy Sherriff!

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

On my truck, they make transmission fluid pans with hollow cooling rods running thru the bottom of the pan, front to back allowing air to flow thru them while driving, might be an option along with a remote cooling sight.
Derale makes them for most auto transmissions here is a link with some specs http://www.etrailer.com/Transmission...le/D14204.html

Jack, I have that type trans pan and it sure can't hurt cooling because it adds more fluid volume as well as having tubes but it does reduce ground clearance. I just received my Speedway Catalog #356 and on page 213 there is a Derale "Remote Fluid Cooler" for about $180. It appears to be 5" thick and might fit under your rear pan. Unfortunatley I mounted my battery in the rear between the exhaust pipes and could not find a place for that type cooler and so I ended up with the angle mount of a passive cooler under the right front fender.

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rooder

So what are you fella's gonna say when you realize that Jacks suspected concern is the fluid is to cool???

He did mention it earlier in the thread that he was hoping to ADD some heat to the trans fluid.

Oh, do you mean like what I posted in post #19???????

Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

Besides, that cooler is way too large. The trans temp never moves the needle on my 100-250F gauge.

Originally Posted by 34_40

So what are you fella's gonna say when you realize that Jacks suspected concern is the fluid is to cool???

He did mention it earlier in the thread that he was hoping to ADD some heat to the trans fluid.

Mike, you're such a diplomat!!

Originally Posted by Don Shillady

The problem with the Sherriff is that the mechanic doing the work is a part time Deputy Sherriff!

Shame on him! If his watch commander knew he would be severely reprimanded! Not only does he know he broke the law, but he swore an oath to uphold it. Meaning he is expected to be at a higher standard and less is just not exceptable. Imagine the SHOCK on his face if you had called the Sherif and one of his co-workers had to settle it, then report him back to the commander!

I'll let it go with that, BUT please remember we live in AMERICA, we do not have to put up with dick-dators.

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Originally Posted by rspears

Mike, you're such a diplomat!!

I was holding my hand over the distributor..... and next thing I knew......... it blurted out... rofl..

Sorry for the hijack.... Jack!

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming!

Jack, from looking at your car, it looks like you could put one of the round finned coolers under your frame rail behind your front link bars. At first I thought it might look out of place. But, you can see the exhaust pipe there so I don't know how out of place a cooler would be. I think that'd be the best place as far as clearance and fitment since there is no room underneath. Atleast then you would have something on there for a cooler. Fenderless cars definitely take some imagining to get ebrything to look right when you place it.

Wow. I step out for a day to change my transmission pan gasket and rear seal and there's a party going on here. Thanks for the coments, guys. Here is some background.
- I already have that Derale pan.
- I have virtually NO room under the car for anything.
- I have no heater and don't want one.
- Ideally, I need to heat the transmission fluid AND keep it at a reasonable level.
- I will be able to eventually find a location for the trans HX somewhere near the front of the car - perhaps low mounted between the radiator and the front of the engine - and maybe even some type of small scoop.

All that stuff will have to wait until I solve the A/C fitment.
Right now, I'm struggling with finding a condenser that will fit. I have one that is the right width, but is too long. (photo somewhere above) I'm looking at another that has the perfect length, but the width leaves me very little room to get 90* ells installed to route the house outside the radiator. I've made a wooden mockup and just need to get some info on a couple of fittings.

RadMock.jpg

Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

- I have no heater and don't want one. All that stuff will have to wait until I solve the A/C fitment.

I'm curious, you are obviously living in a warm climate zone, why do you need to heat the tranny fluid instead of cooling it?


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Originally Posted by 36 sedan

I'm curious, you are obviously living in a warm climate zone, why do you need to heat the tranny fluid instead of cooling it?

Automatic transmissions require some heat to operate properly, and the temperature needs to be contained within a reasonable band. That's why OEM applications all run an HX in the radiator. The radiator gives the fluid the basic operating temp, and a trans "cooler" is added if necessary. Ideal operating temp recommended by my supplier is 160 - 175F. Anything over 175 reduces trans life.

Info from my Bowtie Overdrives instructions: The fluid temperature control system is designed to properly manage thetransmissions operating temperature. Most people don't realize that routing thelines from the transmission through the radiator is designed to bring the transmission up to its proper operating temperature and then maintain it at that temperature. This is the reason that the factory’s transmission hard lines always run to a heat exchanger located in the vehicles thermostatically controlled radiator system. We have yet to see an auxiliary� type cooler mounted anywhere that was capable of doing this job properly. Contrary to popular belief, a good transmission temperature control system run through a heat exchanger located in the exit tank of the vehicles radiator will normally hold the transmissions fluid temperature 30 to 50 degrees F lower than the engines indicated operating temperature. The transmission temperature will be very stable with a system like this unless the radiator is bad or the transmissions heat exchanger located in the radiator is ineffective.

HenryRifle - I never knew this always thought the radiator cooled the fluid, not heated it up!