thanks Roger, the more I get into this and get to totaling up the cost of shrouds, flex fans and etc AND then still have it not work properly, the more I'm starting to lean towards a new rad with an electric fan and shroud that comes as a unit together - - - - still have to put the pencil to the pocket book so I'm gathering all the info I can get first

l8tr,
Em

P.S. this would also allow me to consider Vintage AC but then I'd have to take the Wife with me everytime hahahahaha JUST KIDDING Y'ALL