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01-17-2017 05:39 PM #1
Thanks for the wheel chart, I've been thinking about buying some torq thrust rims for the 53 if the budget allows, and I was about to start the whole measuring offset backspacing thing.Last edited by 53 Chevy5; 01-17-2017 at 05:49 PM.
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01-18-2017 05:47 AM #2
Ryan as far as a shifter I’m not real sure what’s out there as far as 80s up but the mid-late 60s is pretty limited. Here is a link to the most common one. IMO they are overly complicated and not necessarily a good fit in a lot of cars due to requiring a console for the linkage at the bottom of it.
68 console shifter, mounts, linkage, and wiring (SOLD)
I have used these shifters in the past and have been pretty happy with the results. It usually takes a bit of custom fabrication but for under $100 new I can live with that.
The only real complaint I’ve had with them is the lack of detents on the shifter….except for park (it relies on the detents in the valve body). Once the shifter is installed and adjusted it’s pretty easy to take a die grinder and ass them however.
.I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....
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01-18-2017 06:22 AM #3
The pointed end of the Mopar shaker looks out of place given the shape of the hood it's on.. Wondering if a Mustang shaker (flat front vs the Torino shaker) would look any better for what you have planned....
Robert
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01-18-2017 01:59 PM #4
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This morning I blew a lot of dirt and debris off the 354. I removed the stock intake because I have no need for it right now.I also bolted on the 392 water cross over I got last year for it. I also test fitted a distributor I got about 3 years ago that I thought wouldn't fit. Turns out, it fits just fine. It is a new HEI style and I only have to get a drive coupler for it so it will be a drop in replacement.
This morning I cleaned my edges and ground on a bevel on the edges of the rails. Then fit each frame rail and measured and clamped each one on. Tacked them on, took more measurements, and then welded them on. I then put my make shift dolly under the back of the frame and the engine hoist up front. I drug the car outside, covered the front of the body with plastic, and soda blasted the inside portions of the new rails that were the worst. It was pretty nice out. It is in the high 40s now. Darn nice for January! I'm going to get some rust converter paint and paint the inside to help seal them up. I might use weld through primer since I will be welding the boxing plates on. That might be better than a regular paint. The last pic is just showing the weld from the back side. Full penetration.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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01-18-2017 11:26 AM #5
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Mike, thanks for that. I was looking last night and found that you're exactly right that they are pretty limited. I did find this one last night but I'm trying to see why it's so cheap.
Chrysler727 Transmission Shifter Kit 10 Single Bend Black Arm/ Delux Knob xtreme | eBay
Robert, the mopar scoop is out. The TA scoop is my plan, but I am watching a nice polished scoop like you have shown. My only concern is that it may be too large compared to the hood of the 40. I used to know a guy that had 4-5 of these laying around. It would be nice to have one to set on the hood to see how it fits.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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01-18-2017 01:30 PM #6
Ryan-some of those wheel specs are in MM--------aprox 1/2 inch
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01-18-2017 02:10 PM #7
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Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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01-18-2017 03:03 PM #8
That's great progress, nice to see it moving ahead again.
Do you intend to add any plating over your weld joint?
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01-18-2017 03:57 PM #9
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Yes, I'm going to make a sleeve, like a [ , and plug weld and end weld it where I can. I was going to put the parts of the original x member pieces back in the front part as well. But I'm thinking they won't do much except add some weight since I am boxing the frame any how. I haven't decided if I will need to plate the outer part yet or not. I wouldn't think it would need it but I'm open to advice.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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01-18-2017 06:40 PM #10
I think I would plate the outside and make the plate in the shape of a diamond. This is much lighter duty but on loader frames and truck frames, a square plate or a vertical weld will develop a vertical crack right next to the original weld.
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01-18-2017 07:37 PM #11
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01-19-2017 05:49 AM #12
Times 3. You could even do a "more decorative" shape just to dress it out. It will add structure / strength and help carry any flex load.
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01-19-2017 11:59 AM #13
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I think I'm going to do a flat plate with a fish mouth on each end. I didn't have time to mess with it today. Maybe next week.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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01-25-2017 08:36 PM #14
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No real pic worthy progress on the 40. I marked out the inner lips of the 38 rails and started making new boxing plates for the inside. I dug out my welder series cross member and started getting things ready for when it's time to install that. I've got to finish a huge PITA truck before I get to work on this much more.Ryan
1940 Ford Deluxe Tudor 354 Hemi 46RH Electric Blue w/multi-color flames, Ford 9" Residing in multiple pieces
1968 Corvette Coupe 5.9 Cummins Drag Car 11.43@130mph No stall leaving the line with 1250 rpm's and poor 2.2 60'
1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR Stage 3 cam, SuperT10
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01-26-2017 05:21 PM #15
Hey Bud, you made some progress and now seems you have a goal to work towards, don't sweat it... it'll come together. It should look sweet on the "TOUR"!
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