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11-12-2007 04:37 PM #1
This is going to be one of those times when I wish I had steel front fenders and that they weren't painted yet. Pretty hard to get under painted glass fenders with the hot wrench and persuade the supports into the "perfect" shape. I foresee a lot of "bend it to where I think its right, off the car---wait for it to cool---bolt it on, see whats up---take it off heat and bend some more"---you get the picture!!!Old guy hot rodder
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11-12-2007 06:19 PM #2
Denny---I probably will make some form of template. The 3 key areas are #1--where the bracket attaches to the frame #2--where the bracket touches the inside of the fender at the headlight bar holes, and #3 at the outer lip of the fender, where there is a single bolt. Since the aftermarket braces that are on there now do fit well in those 3 areas, I will remove them one at a time, and bolt them to a steel frame (which I will build from scrap I have laying around) using the 3 base bolt holes. I will bolt peices of steel to the other 2 critical areas higher up on the fender brace, and when they are securely bolted in place, I will weld "bridges" to them from the steel frame. Then when everything has cooled, I will unbolt the aftermarket brace and remove it. ---Then I will bolt the original "new" fender braces to the same 3 base bolt holes on my welded steel frame, then heat and bend then so that they match up to the holes in my weldment. This should get things "very close". It is a kind of reverse template, but I have used this method before on similar projects, and it works very well.---BrianOld guy hot rodder
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11-13-2007 08:36 AM #3
Sounds like a plan to me - especially using the brackets you have currently in place as the template. Glass front fenders makes bracket fitting interesting to say the least - cut 'n' paste, bend to fit (and in my case, notch to go around the IFS)
Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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11-13-2007 12:55 PM #4
Yes, when building from scratch, it gets rather interesting---The fiberglass fenders don't have any holes to align them, and the aftermarket fender braces have so much slop at the bolt holes that they will swing almost 2" to either side of "center". I was fortunate that I used an original A frame, because at least that let me correctly position the aftermarket fender braces where they attach to the frame, in the holes that were for the original fender braces. Odds are pretty damn slim that things will come close to lining up now when I go to install a set of original fender braces.Old guy hot rodder
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11-13-2007 01:22 PM #5
Oh well, what else did you have to do this coming winter in the frozen tundra of Ontario. We get almost the same weather, generally here but a day later after some of it dumps on SyracuseDave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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11-13-2007 04:03 PM #6
I love the Guide style headlights---the signal lights look great and are visible from the side equally as well as the front. But Man!!! At $400 a pair for repops, thats just too damn much.Old guy hot rodder
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11-13-2007 04:33 PM #7
I finally got my firewall hole filled with steering column mount and accelerator pedal mount with a hole through my "sandwich" firewall for the throttle cable. Unfortunately my camera is acting up and so far I can't get the pictures to my PC. I have taken a better look at the '29 style cowl lights and I think the "bling factor" against the metallic maroon paint would look great BUT (!) what keeps those goose neck mounts from twisting? There is just one bolt through the side of the cowl. Maybe the modern thing to do is to put the larger Mr. Roadster lights in the cowl where the stock lights would be, that is some chrome bling and much less weight to swing around on just one bolt. The smaller single-filament Mr. Raadster light might be the tasteful way to go for the turn signals.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
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11-14-2007 11:19 AM #8
Sheesh!!! What a hassle!!! You all remember, I bought a second set of fender support brackets of Ebay. I had let my Paypal lapse, because I just never use it. So---I paid with a personal cheque. And then---eventually I got an email back from the seller saying "American banks will not verify Canadian cheques"--they are going to have to snail mail to Canada to verify the cheque. So---I answered and said "Thats okay, I'm not in a rush, let them verify it by snail mail. And then---I got an email from the seller saying "The bank has informed him that the cheque will have to be mailed to the Central Commerce Bank of USA for verification---and that there is a $40.00 fee for that---and then it has to be sent on to the main Bank of Canada which requires another fee." All this for something I "won" for $60.00 So---Then I went back in to Paypal and re-registered. And then---I paid him through Paypal, and it was done in 10 minutes!!! This entire fiasco was my fault.---I never had such a problem trying to get rid of my money
Old guy hot rodder
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11-14-2007 11:26 AM #9
Isn't it fun to deal with EvilBay. A while back I had to replace my credit card after the number was compromised but never changed it on EBAY. I got a nastygram from them yesterday that I owed them $4.15 for a posting. I ended up paying them through PayPal, but what a hassel because they had suspended me at least temporarily. At least it was US to US monies, not Canadian to US
Originally Posted by brianrupnow
Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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11-14-2007 11:33 AM #10
PM me and I'll give you my address. I'll take all your money that you want to send my way....................no hassle guaranteed. Hey.............I'm here to serve.
Originally Posted by brianrupnow
Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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11-14-2007 11:47 AM #11
Well Gee, Bob---Thanks for the offer. IC2--I think this mess up was my fault, not E-bays. I don't deal with Ebay vey much, but in the limited amount that I have dealt with them, I've really had no problem (Caused by them).Old guy hot rodder
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11-27-2007 10:58 AM #12
Well----I am totally blown away!!! The second set of fender braces that I purchased, thru ebay just arrived, and My God---They are just like brand new. It appears that they have never been heat, beat, or tortured---even very little pitting. I bought them from somebody called "jt" in Kansas City, and after a little dance caused by the inability to get a Canadian personal cheque cashed in USA, I paid thru Paypal, and they were promptly shipped the same day. this is the second time I have dealt with ebay, and I could not be more pleased.Old guy hot rodder
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11-27-2007 11:17 AM #13
Those are really clean. Should make your job a lot easier and nicer.
Although some people badmouth Ebay, I have, for the most part, had very positive results both buying and selling. I've only had a couple of bad purchases, and have had a few people put in negative feedback against me because of some things I couldn't fix (like my local postoffice that either delivers payments to my neighbor who is never home, or they hold the envelope without notifying me
) Otherwise, it has been fun and where could you find this stuff otherwise. I have found parts that I have scoured swap meets unsucessfully for, and all I had to do was send some money and it shows up.
Glad your braces were that kind of deal Brian.
Don
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11-27-2007 01:08 PM #14
Looks like you have a pair for fit up and a pair to use. Glad that your purchase was a success. And as much as I complain about eBay, I've had only one really bad experience - and it was selling an original '57 T-Bird OD tranny to a total idiot that said it was a regular Ford OD tranny - (except I was the guy that pulled it out of the 'bird wreck about 1960). Good luck - keep us up to date on the modsDave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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11-27-2007 01:22 PM #15
Went to the Doc yesterday about my tore up shoulder. It seems that my self diagnosis was right---its a torn rotator cuff tendon or muscle. Its taken 3 friggin weeks to get a doctors appointment, and the pain has been crazy. I had 3 x-rays and a cortisone shot in the joint yesterday, and at least the pain is gone now. I'm scheduled to start physiotherapy tomorrow to regain the mobility in the shoulder, but at least it seems that I won't need surgery. Have to wait for everything to heal up before I can start rolling around on the cement garage floor wrestling with old hotrod parts.---BrianOld guy hot rodder






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