Thread: One way to build a '32 sedan

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Don, I had a 31 Ford 5-window coupe in the late 60’s when I would go across a set of railroad tracks I would have to come to almost a complete stop. If I hit the tracks too fast the front end would wobble uncontrollable both wheels. I put a set of king pins in and that stopped the wobble. I was on a motorcycle going 98 miles an hour and the front wheel broke loose; I thought it was over for me.

I guess when I mentioned the 40 Chevy, it happened so fast the car went to the left then right like you would make real sharp turns on the steering wheel. I should not have said back and forth. I thought it was going to flip. I wasn’t going that fast either. Anyway all three times was really scary.

Richard

This is a very good thread. What I have seen so far relates mostly to IFS, except the Jeep video which I think was a solid axle 4WD. I have a solid I beam on the 34 and never had any trouble over the years I drove it as a daily driver (used push pull with a F1 steering box). I have since upgraded to Unisteer R/P cross steer and am wondering what I might have to deal with when I get it back on the road. Should the cross steer rod be parallel to the tie rod.? If so I would have to either lower the Unisteer or get different spindle arms and put slots in my split wish bones for the cross steer and tie rods. or? Oh good, another delay in the project. Once again,this is a really good thread.

Jack.

when I mentioned the 40 Chevy, it happened so fast the car went to the left then right like you would make real sharp turns on the steering wheel. I should not have said back and forth. I thought it was going to flip. I wasn’t going that fast either. Anyway all three times was really scary.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTxP__nIeRw&NR=1


This is what happened to my 40 Chevy Coupe, it was only a few seconds but it was very scary. You can see how this car is going to the extreme sharp left and then right. The high-speed wobble or death wobble will get both wheels going pretty fast and you can generally hold the wheel tight and keep it somewhat straight. On my Motorcycle I had never had it over 95 and one day I wanted to see how fast it would go, it was very slow getting past 95 then 96 then 97 then when it hit 98 that’s when the front end started going crazy. The Bike was a Honda 305 Scrambler that’s why it took so long to get to 98, I was trying to get to 100 but fell short almost literally.

Motorcycle high speed wobble, I was lucky I kept mine from crashing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmtoO...eature=related


Richard

The wheel looks like it belongs in a school bus, not a cool looking sedan, JMO
We can rest assured, Ken will get it right regardless of what we think.

Mike

That steering wheel looks like the real thing right out of an old sprint car. If only it could talk...

The 17" wheel sure is going to crowd your left hand against the door, but it looks good mounted in that photo. Don't give up on that size wheel too quickly. You may be surprised. Brings back memories.

Yep, I'm going to revisit this after I'm further along.

J. Robinson- I have had the very same thoughts, I know one thing about this wheel it was in a pretty good wreck. Someone straightened it but the scars are still there.

I worked on the roof for the last couple of days. These little brackets are for fixing the curvature of the roof. I welded those in then I'm attaching this 1/2" tubing in the arc of the roof, then I can lay the sheet metal on that. I slotted the tubing so the brackets slide inside it. When it's all in place and welded up I will trim the brackets so they will blend into the tubing.
Ken

Good to see you back focused on our Tudor Ken, and it is looking good.. Now me and old retired panelbeater wouldn't of thought of doing those neat little braces for the roof support. You see i would of taken a short cut somehow and then cursed myself for been to lazy to do the job correctly the first time.

Lots of thoughts in that one Ken - good job.

REGS

Ken,those brackets are awesome..its those little bits and pieces you are doing/have done which leaves me in awe,mainly because I never would have thought of doing it..Awesome mate..

Whiplash23T - I have done the same thing also, but now I try not to take the short way, it always seems to take longer

REGs - Thanks, one piece at a time.

lamin8r - Believe me I have beat the idea's to death on this one, I think this will work out, it gives me a little more head room and it should be a little easier on the upholstering job.


Finished up the bows today and blended the brackets into the tubing, so there shouldn't be any lumps in the head liner. I hope! I'm really happy with the way this is coming out, but the worst is yet to come. I didn't weld in the bows in case there are any final adjustments when I do the sheet metal.
Ken

Looks like something Henry should have done in 32. Glad to see you are still hitting on this one..........I love the style of it.

Don

Ken that ought to really add a ton of structural support to the whole cab! Ashame the supports will be hidden by the interior! Hunting season is pretty much over for me, so hopefully I'll be more motivated to get back to work on the truck! I keep running different ideas about my own interior through my head, which is why I'm taking a break before doing anything permanent!(that and the fact I hate body work and sanding!)

Those bows are really going to work out nice Ken!!! Had to of really helped with the flexy shakes on the top of the body, too. Using 20ga. for the skin?

Ken ... although I don't post much I do have to mention that your stuff is ALWAYS kick ass. Nice job on the steering set up.

REGS