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    Scare tactics are at the core of Chicago thug politics, but that's just the foundation. The next weeks are gonna be an all out blitz to demoralize the anti-Obama vote, and it will be relentless, dirty, and intense. Expect what's referred to as the October surprise, though this one won't be based on anything close to real such as Bush's DUI was..........it will be totally fabricated, but timed to make it difficult/maybe even impossible, to refute effectively. The mass media has shown it's corrupt nature by shielding their guy in every way possible. Just keep all this in mind as election day approaches, and don't let it get you down, or your friends/acquaintances.......................everyone who cares about keeping us from becoming the mess that is Greece/Spain (and most of Southern Europe before it's done) needs to turn out and do the turn out of the old for the new. And if the new guy doesn't get it done, out he'll go too in another 4 years (or two if you're in a similar situation for a Representative, six for Senate).................it's up to responsible voters. Vote, vote, vote! Let the lefties and their subjects get over confident............enough of them will stay home to give us a hand if we take advantage of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter View Post
    Scare tactics are at the core of Chicago thug politics, but that's just the foundation. The next weeks are gonna be an all out blitz to demoralize the anti-Obama vote, and it will be relentless, dirty, and intense. Expect what's referred to as the October surprise,
    as predicted:
    Teacher Ridicules Student for Romney T-Shirt - Yahoo! Finance
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    Employment is the lowest it's been in 44 months.

    No doubt we need some "CHANGE" and if we don't get it then we're down the tubes for sure.

    (wise words of wisdom, Uncle Bob - - thanks!)
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    unemployment rates show nothing really. as far as the number of people employed it is the worst in 25 years. i'm not buying it just dropped. hiring is still flat and will go lower but you wont see those numbers. it's ok though. texas is still adding jobs and perry is still telling obama to stuff it.

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    please step in here. you should have more first hand knowledge on romney. not digging at you i really want to know more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
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    please step in here. you should have more first hand knowledge on romney. not digging at you i really want to know more.
    Shine, what would you like to know..??..?? Last time I discussed M.R. I got IC2 overly excited and upset with me!

    Mitt is the true politician. Wears a teflon suit maybe in a former life he sold used cars!

    I am NOT a fan of M.R. as he is a career politician and certainly doesn't need our money! So why would he want to be the president? Yep, he's on a power trip imho..,

    The only (grudgingly) good thing I can say would be about his experience(s) with parties from around the world, I'm almost certain he could corral squirrels if he had to!

    I actually feel / felt betrayed by him and his administration here in Mass as I was on the side that fought against his insurance plan. I still don't believe it's constitutional but there's no way any minority group (republicans) is going to get it turned over / repealed.

    So I am trying to restate, M.R. is NOT a Republican and he is NOT a democrat, imho he will say whatever it takes, dependant on who's standing in front of him. AKA a Politician!

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    i think they all are. health insurance aside . did he improve the economy ? i hear your schools are top shelf. ours suffer because of the high number of kids with little english skills. but then i feel government interference in any of it is wrong.
    people dont like perry but the economy here is pretty stable. our problem is folks following the jobs here.
    what i want from romney is this
    stabilize the economy
    secure our borders
    follow the constitution
    and most of all cowboy up and tell iran to eat a fish along with the rest.

    obama has not and can not do any of the above. he is an empty suit living off the 47% and doing nothing for them .

    and for the record i dont want another politician in there. i voted for ross for boss . we need a business mind to dig out of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    i think they all are. health insurance aside . did he improve the economy ? i hear your schools are top shelf. ours suffer because of the high number of kids with little english skills. but then i feel government interference in any of it is wrong. people dont like perry but the economy here is pretty stable.
    and for the record i dont want another politician in there. i voted for ross for boss . we need a business mind to dig out of this.
    I do not believe he improved much of anything. Businesses were heading off shore at that time, but, I do not remember him leaving office with a deficit.

    Schools here in New Bedford have had as much as a 30% drop out rate! The current state gov't. enforces a standards test before kids can graduate H.S., so they teach'em exactly what is in the test. No more / No less... what local businesses end up hiring is somebody who is so out of touch with todays reality, they're really handicapped and the employers have to teach them everything all over again! Many communities are now rebelling against the govenors standards. Another example of our schools and what's being taught is the schools have to teach a language, so the portuguese kids get taught.... portuguese! And the spanish speaking children are taught... Spanish! They are all bi-lingual anyway 'cause their also taught english.. but the mono-lingual kids can choose from french or spanish for a second language...

    And of course very few of them can add or subtract without a handheld calculator! Or make change.. or read a non-digital watch... so I cannot say our schools are any better than yours, just a different set of "immigrants".

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    Ed McMahon introduces The Great Carnack
    he places the sealed envelope to his head and says:
    "What is the lesser of two evils?"
    then the Great Carnack opens the envelope and reads these words:
    "Voting in the Presidential Election!"
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    i thought he made it very clear where the money will come from. an expanded tax base has always brought prosperity to the nation. more people working and paying their taxes instead of setting home living off the government and paying nothing. that in it's self is the root cause for the problems. i can assure you when you raise taxes on business it will come from their budget not profits. people whine and complain because a large business will get an extended tax break to locate in a city . what they fail to understand is the 500 jobs they bring will generate far more tax revenue than any other tax on a business . it is just how it is done . always has been always will be .
    if you think obama is looking out for the middle class you need to look closer . as a small business owner i am square in the middle of his cross hairs.

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    I did some checking a bit ago and thought I’d just throw this out there.

    National Debt when Obama took office 10,626,000,000,000
    Current National debt....................... 15,566,000,000,000

    Number of people unemployed Sep 2008 10,100,000
    Number of people unemployed Oct 2012 12,100.000

    2008 Number of people on food stamps 26,000,000
    2012 Number of people on food stamps 46,700,000

    Number of illegal aliens in US 2008 (est) 11.000,000
    Number of illegal aliens in US 2012 (est) 11,500,000

    Nov 17 2008 national average price of gasoline $2.17
    National Average price of gasoline yesterday $3.80

    Anyone can take “facts” and spin them in a favorable light (percentages vs actual numbers etc.) From the looks of it even though the percentages of unemployed look better than previous months, it still appears that there are 2,000,000 more people out of work now than there were before the current president took office. I couldn’t find figures on the number of people on section 8 housing to compare, but it appears I’m putting more roofs over peoples heads and paying for their supper than I have in the past. The national debt is 5Trillion dollars more than it was 4 years ago, our borders are still not secure and my tax dollars are being spent to educate kids that aren’t supposed to be here rather than providing quality education for my US citizen grandchildren. On average I am paying far more for commodities than I was 4 years ago.

    Can Obama turn the country around given 4 more years…….or if he’s given the chance will he just become the new “previous president excuse” for the next president to fall back on to say don’t blame me I inherited this mess.



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    Those numbers don't lie and more taxes on the rich is not the answer, putting more people to work is. I'm not interested in who did what 6, 8, 10 years ago, but I am interested in your plan to put people back to work, closing the border, developing our known oil reserves, and eliminating burdensome bureaucracies and regulations that are dragging this country down. Tax, tax, tax is not the answer, never has been and never will be.
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    I would like nothing better then to see the government get out of NPR, PBS and the NEA, a total waste of taxes. If these programs or products are so wonderful and needed so badly people will buy the product and these propaganda machines will survive.

    Remember Air America, the perfect example of a lefty propaganda machine and the viability of it's products and services. A full course and example of Capitalism 101, say I do not seem to be able find that show anymore. What happen to it?

    What big bird cannot survive, could it be it is a lousy program and that's the reason? ........ Oh the thought. How about PBS in general, that thing constantly has a bunch of beggars hawking their services. Crap give me commercials on PBS, more interesting and informative. All PBS does is push a bunch of has been artiest trinkets.

    PBS, and the military among us will understand the next few words, is nothing more then a group of Hey Joe's found in every port overseas.

    To sum it up I will use a statement made by a famous man, you will recognize the source by the intellect of the statement. " Why would anyone want to borrow money from China to fund big bird and put your children's future at risk? "

    Anyone think that's a good plan?


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    Abuse of presidential power? Damn right!

     



    The question has been asked in this thread (obviously not in these exact words) "JUST HOW CAN YOU IMPLY THAT ONE MAN ALONE IS THE MAIN REASON THAT OUR COUNTRY NOW FINDS ITSELF UP TO ITS EARS IN CA-CA?

    You think maybe this might have something to do with it?

    What ever happened to "checks and balances"?

    Jim

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    EXECUTIVE ORDERS ISSUED…
    Teddy Roosevelt 3
    Others to FDR NONE
    FDR 11 in 16 years
    Truman 5 in 7 years
    Ike 2 in 8 years
    Kennedy 4 in 3 years
    LBJ 4 in 5 years
    Nixon 1 in 6 years
    Ford 3 in 2 years
    Carter 3 in 4 years
    Reagan 5 in 8 years
    Bush 3 in 4 years
    Clinton 15 in 8 years
    George W. Bush 62 in 8 years
    Obama 923 in 3 1/2 years!
    Executive Orders .... where's the media?
    If you don't get the implications you're not paying attention. How many warnings do you need?
    923 Executive Orders in 40 Months

    During my lifetime, All Presidents have issued Executive Orders, for reasons
    that vary, some more than others.

    When a President issued as many as 30 Ex. Orders during a term in Office,
    people thought there was something Amiss.
    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 923 EX. ORDERS IN ONE PART OF ONE TERM
    ?????? YES, THERE IS A REASON.
    IT IS THAT THE PRESIDENT IS DETERMINED TO TAKE CONTROL AWAY FROM THE HOUSE AND
    THE SENATE.

    Even some Democrats in the House have turned on him, plus a very small number of
    Democrat Senators question him.

    HE SHOULD BE QUESTIONED. WHAT IS HE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ????

    DOES THIS SCARE YOU AS MUCH AS IT DOES ME?


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    Not really surprising that he appointed "Czars" to be in charge of everything.
    Emperor Obama ?
    Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

    ....THIS IS NOT FUNNY, AND IF YOU VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN, YOU CAN EXPECT MORE!

    Remember what he told Russia 's Putin: "I'll be more flexible after I'm re-elected".

    THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION: Obama has signed 923 Executive Orders in 40 months!
    What did Congress do in those 40 months? (The House - considerable. The Senate
    -nothing, not even a budget nor allowing any House bill to be considered.) A
    whole new order must prevail in Wash. DC as a result of this next election! Now
    look at these:

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of
    transportation and control of highways and seaports.
    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the
    communication media.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power,
    gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and
    farms.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work
    brigades under government supervision.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education
    and welfare functions.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the registration of all persons. Postmaster General to
    operate a national registration
    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to
    take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate
    communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be
    abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland
    waterways and public storage facilities.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal
    departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued
    over a fifteen year period.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency
    Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in
    times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce
    the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to
    establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate
    penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

    -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to
    develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and
    distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money
    in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also
    provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress
    cannot review the action for six months.

    Feel free to verify the "executive orders" at will... and these are just the
    major ones I'm sure you've all heard the tale of the "Frog in the Pot"... you
    all comfortable???
    Watch Obama's actions, not his words! By his actions he will show you where
    America is headed.

    . Just this week, Obama has issued a new executive order that seeks to
    "harmonize" U.S. economic regulations with the rest of the world. This new
    executive order is yet another incremental step that is pushing us closer to a
    North American Union and a one world economic system.

    Unfortunately, most Americans have absolutely no idea what is happening.
    The American people need to understand that Barack Obama is constantly looking
    for ways to integrate the United States more deeply with the rest of the world.
    The globalization of the world economy has accelerated under Obama, and this
    latest executive order represents a fundamental change in U.S. economic policy.
    Now federal regulators will be required to "harmonize" their work with the
    international community.

    THIS IS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE??
    Just Google it!

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    Jim, I hate to do this but your post appears not to be very accurate. However the facts that are hopefully (?) correct, are still just as dismaying to me.



    "......It’s true, however, that Obama is employing his executive powers now more than ever before during his presidency.

    Obama has been sidestepping Congress through his “We Can’t Wait” initiative, a series of executive actions that he claims benefit the middle class through infrastructure projects and economic policy changes.

    He also skirted Senate approval in January when he appointed nominees to the National Labor Relations Board and to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The appointments were unprecedented because he made them when the Senate was technically not in recess, prompting legal challenges from conservative groups.

    In June, the president halted deportations of illegal immigrants who entered the United States when they were children and met certain requirements, such as the lack of a criminal record. The change mirrored provisions of the DREAM Act — failed legislation that Obama supported and Senate Republicans blocked in 2010.

    And in July, Obama changed welfare policy to allow states to modify work requirements if they test new approaches to increasing employment. Obama did not submit the policy change to Congress for review, which the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office concluded he should have done......."


    ( Source FactCheck.org : Obama’s Executive Orders )

    A lot of times the EOs are basically just administrative tools, however Obama's use of them to cirumvent decisions that should belong to the congress who are supposed to represent the people really bothers me.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike P View Post
    Jim, I hate to do this but your post appears not to be very accurate. However the facts that are hopefully (?) correct, are still just as dismaying to me.



    "......It’s true, however, that Obama is employing his executive powers now more than ever before during his presidency.

    Obama has been sidestepping Congress through his “We Can’t Wait” initiative, a series of executive actions that he claims benefit the middle class through infrastructure projects and economic policy changes.

    He also skirted Senate approval in January when he appointed nominees to the National Labor Relations Board and to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The appointments were unprecedented because he made them when the Senate was technically not in recess, prompting legal challenges from conservative groups.

    In June, the president halted deportations of illegal immigrants who entered the United States when they were children and met certain requirements, such as the lack of a criminal record. The change mirrored provisions of the DREAM Act — failed legislation that Obama supported and Senate Republicans blocked in 2010.

    And in July, Obama changed welfare policy to allow states to modify work requirements if they test new approaches to increasing employment. Obama did not submit the policy change to Congress for review, which the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office concluded he should have done......."


    ( Source FactCheck.org : Obama’s Executive Orders )

    A lot of times the EOs are basically just administrative tools, however Obama's use of them to cirumvent decisions that should belong to the congress who are supposed to represent the people really bothers me.




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    I can't vouch for anything that's in there, Mike, and I can't dispute anything that's in there either. My own contribution to that lengthy speech consists of the three sentences above the dotted line.

    I will agree with you, if there are inaccuracies in it or if there are not, it's still enough to scare the britches off of just about anybody.

    Jim

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