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Originally Posted by 1gary

The reports said the type of crash he was in,not much can be done to prevent it.He went driver's side up flying into the catch fence.

Exactley, and that happens in any form of open wheel racing,same exact type of crash that took Rich Vogler in a midget.Any part of a drivers body makes contact with a chain link fence and its gonna tear something off. Wouldn't have mattered if he was going 225 mph or 125 mph ,you jump a wheel and your going airborne.

Originally Posted by 1gary

What do you guys think what kind of rules changes should be done??.

None. Except maybe higher & stronger catch fences and move stands & walkways farther back from the track.

Originally Posted by HWORRELL

Exactley, and that happens in any form of open wheel racing,same exact type of crash that took Rich Vogler in a midget.Any part of a drivers body makes contact with a chain link fence and its gonna tear something off. Wouldn't have mattered if he was going 225 mph or 125 mph ,you jump a wheel and your going airborne.

and prior to that, Jerry Blundy in a USAC sprint at the old Lincoln Speedway, now Eagle.....Then years later, my pal, Larry Lape losing a leg at Huron, Billy Rook on the back chute fence at Husets, and a lot more who's names I can no longer remember...

Dave-I agree with what you said.Found it interesting that Jimmie Johnson said he felt that race had too big of a field racing on a track not designed for Indy cars going too fast.That he would not drive in a race like that.That NASCAR has restrictor plate racing for a reason.Dave the only thing I disagree with on is the lost of only one life does require a very hard look.How you prevent tire rubs from getting cars airborne at those speeds is a hard thing to solve.

You don't prevent bangin' wheels in open wheel racing!!!! I've banged wheels and went on my head, into walls, over fences, through fences, and once out into a cornfield in everything from karts, Super Mods, Sprints, Mini-Sprints, and late models, so has Howard and a number of others on the forum.....and I'll betcha none of us who have been there would vote to do away with open wheel racing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Real race cars don't have doors!!!!


PS---Jimmie Johnson????? As I recall, his experience is in dirt bikes and bodied cars, hardly what I would consider an authority on Indy cars!!!!!!

Oh hell no.I am not talking about banning open wheel racing.

How about a rule requiring a wider stance making it harder to go up or over.Maybe something like a sensor that when one side goes up there is in the suspension a switch of the wt to push it back down,like a hydro cylinder?.

here`s an insane thought for you .. with all the sophisticated remote control systems available now days and computors thinking thousands of time faster than humans why not remote controled racing ? and yes ... i`ve been drinking all day

Originally Posted by HOSS429

here`s an insane thought for you .. with all the sophisticated remote control systems available now days and computors thinking thousands of time faster than humans why not remote controled racing ? and yes ... i`ve been drinking all day

aaaaaaaaaaa-no

Originally Posted by 1gary

aaaaaaaaaaa-no

yeah ,, i guess Danica would`nt look so hot with a remote .. she`s the only reason i`m a little bit of a fan

racing is dangerous. So is just about any professional sport. People get hurt and killed. I don't think banning and more rules are the answer. Maybe designing more safety equipment, but heck that has come a long way since the 50's to today. You see nascar racers hit the wall all the time and walk away. Thiings are musch better now than they ever were. When a guy gets beaned with a fast ball or a football player breaks something, they don't change the rules, but they do try to improve the safety gear. It's sad that the media fixates on any one thing to the point that you have to wonder if they are capable of any intellegence.

Originally Posted by stovens

It's sad that the media fixates on any one thing to the point that you have to wonder if they are capable of any intellegence.

You nailed it there, Steve!!! I get so fed up with the dang reporters who just have to stick a mic and camera in a driver's face 10 minutes after some big altercation on the track!!!! If the driver even hint that somebody took him out then that's all you're going to hear about for the next week!!! Getting the winner's reaction when he gets out of the car in victory lane is one thing, but interviewing a driver when he's so mad he could spit nails and breath fire does nothing but give the unknowing casual race observer the impression that all racers are imbeciles!!!! If you want to have a new rule, make it a dang rule that every driver be granted a one hour cool down period before some lame brain reporter and camera crew get in his face!!!

For the majority of the media, Dan's death was nothing more then the story of the day---most of them won't remember his name by Friday....or earlier if Kyle Busch gets another speeding ticket!!!! Freedom of the press is a wonderful thing, just too bad that it isn't limited by common sense. \

But then, common sense just isn't that common anymore, is it?????

The hell with the media.I was asking you guys what you would suggest to make the cars better based on your background.Just some talking points.

Gary I'm sure people will be looking into this accident and trying to come up with somethings that may prevent it from happening in the future, sometimes these accidents lead to some cool innovations, but I'm guessing that it will be somewhere down the line, due to the fact they already incorperate a lot of safety stuff.

Here's some info on the new cars for 2012 from the IZOD Indy Car Site, written before Sunday's race and before everyone became an "expert" on racing safety!!!! Safety is one of the main reasons for the new car. Not a lot of real details out till all the testing is done;

"Attributes of safety, raceability, cost-effectiveness, efficiency, relevant technology, American-made, green and modern look have been rolled into the chassis strategy selection that was rolled out in the form of 3D renderings at the Indianapolis Museum of Art.
The platform is a universal road/oval rolling chassis with an enhanced driver safety cell and an anti-wheel lock design that will be produced by long-time IZOD IndyCar Series partner Dallara Automobili at a state-of-the-art facility to be built on Main Street in Speedway, Ind. -- a few hunderd yards from the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the Indy Racing League offices The IndyCar Safety Cell will serve as the base, with bodywork (aero kits of front and rear wings, sidepods, engine covers) an open development area. Any manufacturer (including inhouse by teams) will be able to produce aero kits for the chassis with stipulations that the parts receive approval from the IZOD IndyCar Series, be available to all teams, undergo safety testing approved by the IZOD IndyCar Series and have a maximum price of $70,000. Each team can race two different aero kits from any manufacturer during a season.Dallara has a contract through 2015 to produce the IndyCar Safety Cell.
Dallara’s rolling chassis (encompassing everything but the driver's seat) will cost $349,000 -- a 45 percent price decrease from the cost of each of the 26 cars that will compete this weekend in the Honda Indy Toronto. Dallara's aero kit the first year of the program will be available for $36,000, increasing to the $70,000 ceiling the second year. Total weight will drop 185 pounds to 1,380, with a minimum weight determined once variables with suppliers, including engine weight, are determined."