Thread: I've had it with Chinese crap..Rant!!

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The Chinese can't build buildings that stay standing after a ground shaker, why would you expect them to build quality auto parts

I know it is getting nearly impossible to avoid Chinese stuff, but I still try. I lay some of the blame on the US companies who are more interested in profit than they are on quality. They're the ones selling us down the river.

Don,

Chinese stuff is junk....not a generalization. Think of one quality product that China is famous for....it sure isnt parts or even Chinese food!

The process of getting something built in China does not start with some Chinese guy thinking "I'll build a SBC part for sale in America." It actually starts with some round eye contacting a broker in China with the specific request to build a part...say an oil pan. The American guy sends the oil pan to China with the instructions to duplicate it with a low price. The Chinese guy has zero clue that it is a SBC oil pan.... he is talented at making an "appearance copy" not a "functional copy." They are very good at making something that looks like their target product...a fake Rolex is a good example.

However, since the metallurgy or the tolerances may be important and the Chinese guy has zero clue about these details, the Chinese copy doesnt work right....but it was cheap.

The entire situation is our fault....we demand cheap products and turn our back on quality. From cars, to tools, to clothes, we buy on price first and appearance second. Quality is somewhere way down the line.

mike in tucson

This is very true mike. Sometimes the product is great for a small end user who doesn't need quality. Other times it is a blatant rip off that is made to undersell a good product, or even be passed off as the same brand! Ken has posted this very thing happening to his trailer business. Very frustrating!

You are right Mike, we have done it to ourselves. The Mom and Pop stores where we used to shop are now pretty much wiped out by the Walmart's of the world. Those were the stores where you could actually find a person who knew how to use the stuff he or she sold and who were willing to share that experience with their customers. Try to find someone at Walmart who can tell you how to use anything in the store...........in fact, just try to find an Associate to help you AT ALL in Walmart!!

I do it just like everybody else, I shop for price first most times, and that habit is now coming back to bite me in the behind.

Don

To quote a famous person.....................

[QUOTE=Itoldyouso].....pretty much wiped out by the Walmart's of the world. ..

Don

....and the next time you are in Wally World, just check to see if you are really getting a better price. I'm starting to find, locally at least, that many of their prices exceed the local stores plus are made even more cheaply then the Chinese crap that the mom and pop stores are now forced to sell to remain close to competitive

I still challenge everyone to name one item (currently made..not Ming vases) made in China that is known for its quality. If you go to China and watch them cook, you would never want to eat Chinese food again!!

IF (and only if) an American company set up operations in China AND controlled the QC, the product might include quality.... any more, you look at the "name" brand and cant tell if it is made in the USA still. Go try to buy an American flag.... China.

[QUOTE=IC2]

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

.....pretty much wiped out by the Walmart's of the world. ..

Don

....and the next time you are in Wally World, just check to see if you are really getting a better price. I'm starting to find, locally at least, that many of their prices exceed the local stores plus are made even more cheaply then the Chinese crap that the mom and pop stores are now forced to sell to remain close to competitive

look in a gun value book in the Winchester Rifle section. you will see a Wal Mart specific listing, of lower value. all non wal mart brand clothing they sell are irregulars. The electronic components that are put into the Wal Mart electronics are from a cheaper source. I bought an RCA 5 disc changer a few years ago, returned 4 of them b4 I got 1 that worked right.. when I replaced that 1 last year, the cd player didn't work quite right, but I never bothered taking it back... some stuff is not made cheaper but most is. My mom works at walmart so I know what is and isn't

"Chinese irregulars" is a double saying.

Kinda like when Jay Leno was talking about foreign ripoffs of GM parts.....he asked "if there was a crappy ripoff part for a GEO Metro, wouldnt they have used it at the factory?"

Originally Posted by robot

Don,




The entire situation is our fault....we demand cheap products and turn our back on quality. From cars, to tools, to clothes, we buy on price first and appearance second. Quality is somewhere way down the line.

mike in tucson

You are absolutely RIGHT about this, to many looking for a ridiculous price and complaining when they got exactly what they paid for. Ask yourself this, does anyone think someone like a John Force would race with china crap and expect to win ........................ let me help here ......... a FAT NO!

The same people will go and spend a gzillion on some stupid cell phone that will not even allow the user to have one conversation without uttering the words, can you here me now, it is all about piroity and common sense choices, if you whant to play the big dog games you have to get off the pourch, this hobby cost money and to get in the game one just might have to spend.

Save your hard earned money and get the right stuff, the savings in the end will equal much MORE fun. The individual will have a reliable hotrod that will give the driver a whole lot of fun and the satisfaction of quality with the knowledge that every time you fire that beast it will speak ........... horsepower and perform the same.

................ BUY AMERICAN MADE, we are, after all the ones that all try to copy, and a copy is just a copy .......... diamonds - zarcony, which is more valuable ....... real or a fake look a like? same goes for parts

I like the idea of sending back stuff to the Summit's and Jegs that send a china part without advertising the fact that they are selling a look a like. Just maybe they will get the message, cause it cost them to restock and correct their inventory counts. Let the stuff sit on their shelves and collect their dust..... It is the only way it will change, sure you will suffer some. No pain no gain, but put the pain back on the supplier, it cost you nothing for the part to stay in their store...

Enjoy this great hobby, but expect to get exactly what you pay for .......... good luck

Originally Posted by pepi

I like the idea of sending back stuff to the Summit's and Jegs that send a china part without advertising the fact that they are selling a look a like. Just maybe they will get the message, cause it cost them to restock and correct their inventory counts. Let the stuff sit on their shelves and collect their dust..... It is the only way it will change, sure you will suffer some. No pain no gain, but put the pain back on the supplier, it cost you nothing for the part to stay in their store...

Enjoy this great hobby, but expect to get exactly what you pay for .......... good luck

I totally agree with that - as long as they can be convinced to assume that very expensive shipping cost. Their advertising says free shipping - it isn't. Every time UPS/USPS/FEDEX raise their price - so will the Summit's and Jeg's of the world.

More and more automobile parts are made in China - though I was able to buy a switch, a box of terminals and some wire at NAPA, that, horrors, was ALL made in the USA.

My wife did some comparative shopping over the weekend and found that several items (and she seldom will do this) at Wally World were significantly MORE expensive then Target, and the Rite-Aid drugstore where she finally bought the item. Plus it was US made rather then an "undetermined" country. Since I'm doing most of the grocery shopping (she's still working) I've found that Wal Mart is no longer a bargain for much of anything any longer.