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Originally Posted by mooneye777

A C9ve-B block is a 2 bolt main 429 CJ for a 69 or 70 torino.

No, it is not. It is a widley used passenger car block, usually used in 1969 model year passenger car vehicles that had 385 Series engines (which the 1969 Torino did not). CJ/SCJ blocks are almsot always casting "D0VE-A."

Originally Posted by mooneye777

Slightly larger thermact-air boss, being used for passenger cars D0VE-A is a less revised version and very similer to the D0VE-C's The cylinder heads used from '68 to '71 are interchangeable.
Valve sizes are 2.09" intake and 1 65" exhaust.

The Thermactor bumps are essentially unchanged over the years. Tom Monroes book is filled with incorrect techincal data; please do not refer to it as gospel because it is filled with erorrs.

Paul

Hello, my name is travis, iv been reffering to these threads, hoping to find out what kind of 429 i have,i think the info you guys posted shined light on my situation,i purchased a 70 torino that happen to have (not stock) a 429 w/ a c6 auto for $500 bucks, well i thought it was just a plain jane 4v block, well it has D0VE-C heads,and D0VE-A block,which with the info posted it could OR could not be a 4bolt, but should have thick webbs, either way i gotta pull the damn oil pan off to find out if it is 2 or 4 bolt, o well i want to pull the motor & tranny to clean up the engine bay,ill find out soon,( even has a dual point distributer are those as good as every one says they are?......lazytorino

"even has a dual point distributer are those as good as every one says they are?"

Not compared to what's available today in the aftermarket.

Originally Posted by Paul Kane

No, it is not. It is a widley used passenger car block, usually used in 1969 model year passenger car vehicles that had 385 Series engines (which the 1969 Torino did not). CJ/SCJ blocks are almsot always casting "D0VE-A."

The Thermactor bumps are essentially unchanged over the years. Tom Monroes book is filled with incorrect techincal data; please do not refer to it as gospel because it is filled with erorrs.

Paul

First off sorry for reopening a old thread but i have a couple of questions. My 429 has the DOVE-A block i was told this was a thunderjet now your telling me it might be a cj or scj?. Or did they just use the same casting numbers sorry i'm very confused.

Originally Posted by whatisit?

My 429 has the DOVE-A block i was told this was a thunderjet now your telling me it might be a cj or scj?. Or did they just use the same casting numbers sorry i'm very confused.

Most all 1970 production 429s and 460s, used D0VE-A blocks, whether they be Thunderjets, Cobra Jets, or whatever.

Paul

Originally Posted by Paul Kane

Most all 1970 production 429s and 460s, used D0VE-A blocks, whether they be Thunderjets, Cobra Jets, or whatever.

Paul

So how do i figure out what it came out of or can't I?. This is going to drive me nuts if i can't figure it out lol.

Originally Posted by whatisit?

So how do i figure out what it came out of or can't I?. This is going to drive me nuts if i can't figure it out lol.

Who cares?? Why does it matter where the engine originated if you're building a unique combo?

Or...do you mean that you wish to determine whether it is a Thunderjet or a Cobra Jet? If that's the case, then you need to provide the engineeering revisions of the castings.

We enthusiasts tend to quantify our engines/components by engineering revisions (mistakenly referred to as "casting numbers" or "date codes"). These engineering revisions indicate which components we have and thereby further indicate the overall potential of the engine.

The cylinder head casting numbers are located on the outside of the head, along the valve cover mounting rail and between the 3rd and 4th exhaust ports. The are visible simply by raising the hood and looking at the engine. You should be able to find a cast-in alphanumeric number, possibly one of the following:

• C8VE-A
• C8VE-E
• C9VE-A
• D0VE-C
• D2VE-AA
• D3VE-A2A

Or, it may appear similar to one of the above numbers but a little different.

The block casting number is located on the ouside of the engine, at the rear of the cylinder bank, behind the starter motor and reads vertically. There, you should be able to find a cast-in alphanumeric number, possibly one of the following:

• C8VE-B
• C9VE-B
• D0VE-A
• D1VE-A2B (or other varying suffix)
• D9TE-AB

Or, it may appear similar to one of the above numbers but a little different.

The above engineering revisions can suggest the potential that may be pulled from the parts you have, and that's all that really matters to most Ford performance enthusasts. If you need actual date codes for some reason (such as for "correct" classic car restoration purposes"), those are the alphanumeric numbers that are cast in the heads (valve train area) and block (lifter valley area).

Paul

I was just wondering if you were still coming around, Paul. I hadn't seen any posts from you lately, or maybe I just missed seeing them. Anyway, glad to see you still here.

Don