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Originally Posted by MrWizard455

BTW, the fellow Brent, who created this forum is a long time friend of mine and THATS who invited me here, Brent and i have raced with and against each other both on the street and at the track, check with him and u'l find that i KNOW what im ta;lkin about and I DO NOT TAKE SMACK off anyone bout anything anywhere anytime. Again, in my vernacular, "YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY" cause ya obviously ain't got a clue.

Well I am sure Brent would agree that there are forums that wouldn't tolerate thread jacking like this,(self promotion),let alone trashing members like Dave,Jerry,Richard,and before myself.If you have a point to prove,I suggest you do so based on fact and forget validating yourself.That is just a friendly suggestion by the way.

Now post # 14 is much better---fewer keystrokes, fewer of those funny words,more concentration on the subject line and to the point.

You have a lot of experience and success, why don't you keep your posts more to the point and stay on the subject than rambling about 17 different cars you have and if you took the tires off this car and ran them on the other car it would lower the compression in the original posters car if he had iron heads but only if he was using rods that were original length with pistons that had the rings above the wrist pin??

Seriously why don't you forget who you are for a couple hours and go read your posts???

And just who would you recommend me to ask???and what do you think they could do for me???

where u got all that from i have no idea, such as lowering compression with aluminum heads. becaue aluminum heads have a hgher heat dispation ratio than irons and heat contained in the combustion cycle for how long most determines static cyl pressure or static compression as u folk like to call it outside of mechanical compression ratio. It then follows that aluminum heads will yeild a diff staic cyl presure than would the same engine at the same mechanical compression ratio, one that would b LOWER.
As for the number and types of cars i have had, i have owned in Just hot rods to name a few, now 5 2cnd gen Trans Ams, 2 442's and 5 Cutlasses powered by Olds V8 engines of all sizes, 10 GTOs, 3 catalina 2+2s, 3 Model SJ Grand Prixs, 2 DZ 302 69 Z28s 1 with the service package 5 option package the other with the service pack 6 option package. Presently i own 4 cars a motorcycle and a pic up truck, down from a total of 10 vehicles a couple years ago, including 3 motorcycles. I have also owned both Mopar and Ford hot rods, 1 RR, 1 GTX, 1 Sport Satelite among the former, a stang and a 65 390 4 gear galaxie, a number of pintos including a V8 conversion tha i built.
As for the comment about using the tires off my Bmer on my Lesabre ... that was a comment to make clear that i actually HAVE an OLDS powered car tha is in street trim with all its amenities and it runs respectable times with an iron headed small block Olds V8 on street tires and even better on ET streets.
All this in response to the ridicule and antagonistic response tyo the 1st post on the subject, which was meant to enlighten the questioner not elicit disrepect from the other commenters.
As for my educational and automotive experiences, that too was to make sure its understood that im speakin what I KNOW than what i thought or think. Again all in response to the disrespectful responses from other commenters about the 1st post.
AND the original post was entirely on point, as well as included comment to insure tha it was understood that i KNOW what im talkin about, not just think i do.
Like i say folk, i have no problem with folk disagreein with me but i do not respond kindly to disrespect of any kind from anyone, such as the name callin n other childish smack contained in the response to the 1st post. respond to me as a respectful adult and i will respond to YOU in kind, other than that it is what it is in my response and whatever ya wanna do about it, bring it.

As I said before if you're from the St.Louis area then Fujimo should ring a bell.

You know Dallas, I used to DATE a redheaded schoolteacher who kept making me do it again and again until I got it right. I think that's the course we will have to follow here. Let's continue....I have all night....

"where u got all that from i have no idea, such as lowering compression with aluminum heads."

Who said anything about that?? Where did that come from??

"becaue aluminum heads have a hgher heat dispation ratio than irons and heat contained in the combustion cycle for how long most determines static cyl pressure or static compression as u folk like to call it outside of mechanical compression ratio."

BZZZZZZZZZTTT. Wrong. Dallas, let's try to stick to the principles involved and tag them properly. You have static compression ratio, which is a purely mathematical function where you add up all the volumes drawn into the cylinder when the piston descends in the bore and then divide that figure by the total volume with the piston at TDC. That is a STATIC figure. It will not change one iota after the motor is built. It is normally referred to as SCR to prevent spelling it out. Dynamic compression ratio, on the other hand, is a constantly changing pressure. You can figure it mathematically, but your product will be only an average of the actual moving DCR. It is figured using SCR, rod length, stroke and the intake closing point of the intake lobe of the camshaft.

"It then follows that aluminum heads will yeild a diff staic cyl presure than would the same engine at the same mechanical compression ratio, one that would b LOWER."

BZZZZZZZZT. Wrong again. Come on Dallas, pay attention. Static compression ratio and mechanical compression ratio are the same thing. Both are a mathematical value and mean nothing in respect to the dynamic compression ratio that is a result of the motor running. The only way aluminum heads are going to yield a different static (or mechanical) compression ratio is if the combustion chamber is smaller or larger than the chamber in an iron head that you are comparing to.

"As for the number and types of cars i have had, i have owned in Just hot rods to name a few, now 5 2cnd gen Trans Ams, 2 442's and 5 Cutlasses powered by Olds V8 engines of all sizes, 10 GTOs, 3 catalina 2+2s, 3 Model SJ Grand Prixs, 2 DZ 302 69 Z28s 1 with the service package 5 option package the other with the service pack 6 option package. Presently i own 4 cars a motorcycle and a pic up truck, down from a total of 10 vehicles a couple years ago, including 3 motorcycles. I have also owned both Mopar and Ford hot rods, 1 RR, 1 GTX, 1 Sport Satelite among the former, a stang and a 65 390 4 gear galaxie, a number of pintos including a V8 conversion tha i built."

Personally, I don't care how many cars you have owned. That doesn't make you any smarter or able to debate any more intelligently and it certainly didn't do anything for your composition, punctuation or spelling. Furthermore, it did little or nothing in the way of convincing me that you have any idea what you're talking about.

"As for my educational and automotive experiences, that too was to make sure its understood that im speakin what I KNOW than what i thought or think. Again all in response to the disrespectful responses from other commenters about the 1st post.
AND the original post was entirely on point, as well as included comment to insure tha it was understood that i KNOW what im talkin about, not just think i do."

Dallas, you don't know how it pains me to have to tell you that you don't have a clue. I'm sure you have built motors in the past and they have performed admirably, but believe me, it wasn't because you know any of the basics of what makes a motor work. I saw a fortune-telling hen at the boardwalk once, but I don't think she knew anything about what she was doing either.

Dallas, you're the aluminum head guy, why don't you field this one....

Oh, and by the way Louey, it's common courtesy when quoting someone that you put the verbage in quotes and give credit to the author.

I had to run out for more butter.........did I miss anything?



Don

LOL Tech, now that i can go along with, as i say, im not havin any issue with folk in disagreement with me, jusd the tenor of said disagreement in an obviously disrespectful manner.
i can take and dish out friendly teasin as well as the next person.
As far the so called lon windedness of my posts, that is a function of being sure that even the most uneducated on the subject of discussion can b sure to catch the gist of the post. That all out of respect to the fact that some of us are far less adept in the subject than others and such clarification is for their benifit.

Originally Posted by MrWizard455

LOL Tech, now that i can go along with, as i say, im not havin any issue with folk in disagreement with me, jusd the tenor of said disagreement in an obviously disrespectful manner.
i can take and dish out friendly teasin as well as the next person.
As far the so called lon windedness of my posts, that is a function of being sure that even the most uneducated on the subject of discussion can b sure to catch the gist of the post. That all out of respect to the fact that some of us are far less adept in the subject than others and such clarification is for their benifit.

Wizard-you didn't get the point,for whatever good you are posting,you kill it with all the unnecessary baggage you are posting.Please man,stay on topic.Why do you care soooooooooo much about what anyone else thinks??.Just the facts is all that is needed.

Huh?? What's with all the respect bs, anyway???? Sounds like the gangster crap on TV, "gonna shoot ya for not respecting me...."

Dallas

I want to offer an opolgy but only on the following understanding----

In my main money making career, it was part of SOP to critique every critical operation in order to discuss what went right, what went wrong and how to make it better---most times it was well accepted because it wasn't criticism, but critique---we were all professionals and well qualified or we wouldn't of had the positions we did. Those qualifications included level of education, and many years of experiance/training/checks, etc including 3 physicals a year.

I enjoy helping people who are brave enough to come on here and post asking for help, I respect the time and effort the people spend looking up info from some very detailed sources and explaining it. The level of experiance that the main group of technical posters have is deep, including yours.

But----your posts come across sort of like the government health bill---thousands of pages that nobody reads or understands--your spelling/typing makes them look like they are in a foreign langage---your interjection of your 43 cars plus pintos( sorry, I thought you only had 17) confuses me as to the relavance of the post, your street racing comments upset me, and your strip racing experiances are of such a low caliber I would personally be imbarassed in mention them---

My thoughts are that if you would simplfy your rambling replies and post your position instead of posting a congressional bill with all the ear marks in it, your posts would be better understood(by me at least) and your presence here would be better accepted.

Jerry Clayton

And with that eloquent, well thought out, and written post, this thread is now closed.