I'v seen those, only thing is, I can't get to the inside. I'd have to pull the motor out and remove the pan, which right now is not an option, as I have no equipment. I just have to get it togther enough so I can start it. I have no antifreeze in the block, only water. I don't want my block cracked. what about a small sheetmetal panal, sheet metal screwed into place with a rubber gasket on the back, weld the fitting to the panal, drill the hole thru it? I have a stick welder that is pretty forgiving, but I burn thru easy. I got lots of sheet metal, only 1 oil pan ( which is $80 new if I screw it up )